Thread (96 messages) 96 messages, 15 authors, 2013-11-08

Re: perf events ring buffer memory barrier on powerpc

From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Date: 2013-11-01 16:18:34
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On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 11:40:15PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
The dependency you are talking about is via the "if" statement?
Even C/C++11 is not required to respect control dependencies.

This one is a bit annoying.  The x86 TSO means that you really only
need barrier(), ARM (recent ARM, anyway) and Power could use a weaker
barrier, and so on -- but smp_mb() emits a full barrier.

Perhaps a new smp_tmb() for TSO semantics, where reads are ordered
before reads, writes before writes, and reads before writes, but not
writes before reads?  Another approach would be to define a per-arch
barrier for this particular case.
Supposing a sane language where we can rely on control flow; would that
change the story?

I'm afraid I'm now terminally confused between actual proper memory
model issues and fucked compilers.
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