Thread (23 messages) 23 messages, 7 authors, 2010-04-23

Re: Continual reading from the PowerPc time base register is not stable

From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Date: 2010-03-25 20:38:54

On Thu, 2010-03-25 at 23:00 +0800, Csdncannon wrote:
I am really sorry that the previously attached code is wrong, this one
"timebase.c" is the right one, and the "log_timebase" file is the
right log.

We are using FreeScale PowerPc 8378, kernel 2.6.28 and compiled as
32-bit.
And despite all those sync/isync you can still observe the timebase
going backward ? That sounds scary. However, at this stage all I can
suggest is getting freescale folks to have a look, as this should really
not happen. Maybe there's some setting with that specific SoC that is
missing or similar...

Cheers,
Ben.
Thanks
Gino

2010/3/25 Arnd Bergmann [off-list ref]
        On Thursday 25 March 2010, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
        > On Thu, 2010-03-25 at 10:41 +0800, Csdncannon wrote:
        > >          In my program, the value of the 64-bit time base
        register is
        > > read out, and you will find the later value is even
        smaller than the
        > > earlier value from the log “log_timebase”. While the
        kernel depends on
        > > the accuracy of the timebase for the compensation of the
        lost PIT
        > > interrupt, the negative value between two continual
        timebase reading
        > > will bring to the jump of the jiffies. And this timebase
        problem will
        > > bring to the instability of the gettimeofday system call.
        > >
        > >          Do you have any idea about this problem, thanks
        for your any
        > > advice. Attached is the code and log.
        >
        > This is a concern, it should definitely not happen. What
        machine is
        > that ? is the code compiled 32-bit or 64-bit ? What kernel
        version ?
        >
        > Arnd, any chance that could relate to the bug you've been
        chasing on
        > Cell ?
        
        
        We're still busy with the problem analysis on Cell, waiting
        for a time
        slot to run the next test kernel. So far it seems like the
        timebase
        is actually synchronized at a significant accuracy on QS22 to
        never
        cause this problem with correct code, however it is possible
        to
        observe incorrect timebase values on Cell whenever the mftb
        instruction
        is not serialized with memory accesses, e.g. by using an isync
        in front
        of the mftb. On Power6 and other CPUs, that problem will not
        happen.
        
               Arnd
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