Re: Continual reading from the PowerPc time base register is not stable
From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Date: 2010-03-25 20:38:54
On Thu, 2010-03-25 at 23:00 +0800, Csdncannon wrote:
I am really sorry that the previously attached code is wrong, this one "timebase.c" is the right one, and the "log_timebase" file is the right log. We are using FreeScale PowerPc 8378, kernel 2.6.28 and compiled as 32-bit.
And despite all those sync/isync you can still observe the timebase going backward ? That sounds scary. However, at this stage all I can suggest is getting freescale folks to have a look, as this should really not happen. Maybe there's some setting with that specific SoC that is missing or similar... Cheers, Ben.
Thanks
Gino
2010/3/25 Arnd Bergmann [off-list ref]
On Thursday 25 March 2010, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-03-25 at 10:41 +0800, Csdncannon wrote:
> > In my program, the value of the 64-bit time base
register is
> > read out, and you will find the later value is even
smaller than the
> > earlier value from the log “log_timebase”. While the
kernel depends on
> > the accuracy of the timebase for the compensation of the
lost PIT
> > interrupt, the negative value between two continual
timebase reading
> > will bring to the jump of the jiffies. And this timebase
problem will
> > bring to the instability of the gettimeofday system call.
> >
> > Do you have any idea about this problem, thanks
for your any
> > advice. Attached is the code and log.
>
> This is a concern, it should definitely not happen. What
machine is
> that ? is the code compiled 32-bit or 64-bit ? What kernel
version ?
>
> Arnd, any chance that could relate to the bug you've been
chasing on
> Cell ?
We're still busy with the problem analysis on Cell, waiting
for a time
slot to run the next test kernel. So far it seems like the
timebase
is actually synchronized at a significant accuracy on QS22 to
never
cause this problem with correct code, however it is possible
to
observe incorrect timebase values on Cell whenever the mftb
instruction
is not serialized with memory accesses, e.g. by using an isync
in front
of the mftb. On Power6 and other CPUs, that problem will not
happen.
Arnd