Re: 9600 maturity?
From: Michel Lanners <hidden>
Date: 2002-04-15 19:14:16
Hey all, On 15 Apr, this message from Tony 'Nicoya' Mantler echoed through cyberspace:
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I've not had too much trouble with my 9600/200mp. I haven't used it much since early 2.4, mind you (got enough other unix boxes on my desktop), butNot too much? Does that mean you can beat the crap out of all subsystems 24/7 with no hardware failure? :) Like a 'make -j20' on the kernel src with several concurrent 'badblocks'?I think I could crash it by trying to use 'hdparm' on the IDE-connected drives, but I don't recall anything else that would make it puke.
Yeah, hdparm -I crashed my 7600 with Promise too, at one time at least. Didn't use it recently, though, since I know what's on the bus ;-)
Most of the fuss I ran into was just getting a kernel with the right patches to talk to all the Promise card, and figuring out why the heck SMP wouldn't work.
Both problems are resolved for 2.4 kernels.
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I haven't had much trouble with the PCI. I'm running a Promise Ultra66 andNot much? Does that mean it was reliable, or just sticky to configure?Well, when I was linuxing my 9600, it was around the time of the PCI code being in a state of a whole lot of flux, trying to handle 3+ busses per machine and resorting board resources. I think (hope) that work has been basically finnished and integrated now, so I wouldn't expect nearly as much trouble now.
No, 2.4 kernels should have solid PCI even in the presence of multiple host bridges (which was the problem on the dual-bandit 9x00). The only potentially remaining problem could be access to IO space on the second bus. Ben, can you comment?
Anyways, some things you might consider adding to a 9600 should you pick one up: #1: Ram. With 12 dimm slots, it can take a gig and a half of 5 volt 168-pin FPM or EDO, though maxing it out might be expensive. Remember to install in matched pairs to take advantage of interleaving.
To be sure, I have a tool on my homepage that checks the hammerhead (memory controler) configuration for interleaving.
#2: Faster HD controller. QLogic cards are pretty sweet, Adaptec cards will do in a pinch, and Promise cards seem to work nice if you've got a taste for cheap IDE gigs. The PCI bus has a measured max throughput of 80MB/s per bus, so you might as well put it to good use.
To take into account here: bootability. If you need a bootable additional controler, than that limits your choices. Promise' are not bootable; but there apparently is a MacOS version from some OEM that has an OF ROM instead of the PC BIOS ROM. Don't know if it's Linux-supported, though.
#3: Newer video. Radeon7000 PCI is a good choice. This obviously isn't a factor when the system is to be used as a server though.
Yeah, according to all reports, the original IMS TwinTurbo cards are problematic. Chees Michel ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michel Lanners | " Read Philosophy. Study Art. 23, Rue Paul Henkes | Ask Questions. Make Mistakes. L-1710 Luxembourg | email mlan@cpu.lu | http://www.cpu.lu/~mlan | Learn Always. " ** Sent via the linuxppc-dev mail list. See http://lists.linuxppc.org/