Re: Real Time response/latency question

Dan Malek [off-list ref] writes:

Graham Stoney wrote:

quoted

.... Can anyone give me a rough idea of the maximum latency in user
space I could expect on an 860T based system with multiple threads,
where only one thread has SCHED_RR realtime scheduling priority?

You can't answer this question due to the design and implementation of
the kernel.  Most "real-time" systems can't either once you throw
protocol stacks, file systems, disk drives, and other external devices
or distributed services into the feature mix.

I have successfully written applications that required sub-millisecond
latency.  You just have to be careful about other applications in the
system, and remember that you can't preempt the kernel.

Ingo molnars lowlatency patch (http://www.redhat.com/~mingo/lowlatency-2.2.13-A1)
(adapted to PPC ofcourse) in combination with POSIX realtime scheduling
can actually do great things for you. (Not hard realtime ofcourse
but very good "normal-case" latency even under high load)

However, if you use a serial console - don't even think about doing
anything remotely realtime without the following patch. Without it
the 8xx serial driver can busy-wait up to 25ms(!!!) (assuming 9600
bits/s) when it prints a newline.

Index: n_tty.c
===================================================================
RCS file: /swb/cvs_repository/linux/drivers/char/n_tty.c,v
retrieving revision 1.1.1.1
diff -u -r1.1.1.1 n_tty.c

--- n_tty.c	1999/07/07 13:57:03	1.1.1.1
+++ n_tty.c	1999/11/30 20:17:16

@@ -144,11 +144,13 @@
 			if (O_ONLCR(tty)) {
 				if (space < 2)
 					return -1;
-				tty->driver.put_char(tty, '\r');
+				tty->driver.write(tty, 0, "\r\n", 2);
 				tty->column = 0;
+			} else {
+				tty->driver.put_char(tty, c);
 			}
 			tty->canon_column = tty->column;
-			break;
+			return 0;
 		case '\r':
 			if (O_ONOCR(tty) && tty->column == 0)
 				return 0;

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