On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 4:58 PM James Bottomley
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On Mon, 2020-11-23 at 15:19 +0100, Miguel Ojeda wrote:

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On Sun, Nov 22, 2020 at 11:36 PM James Bottomley
[off-list ref] wrote:

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Maintainers routinely review 1-line trivial patches, not to mention
internal API changes, etc.

We're also complaining about the inability to recruit maintainers:

https://www.theregister.com/2020/06/30/hard_to_find_linux_maintainers_says_torvalds/

And burn out:

http://antirez.com/news/129

Right.

The whole crux of your argument seems to be maintainers' time isn't
important so we should accept all trivial patches ... I'm pushing back
on that assumption in two places, firstly the valulessness of the time
and secondly that all trivial patches are valuable.

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If some company does not want to pay for that, that's fine, but they
don't get to be maintainers and claim `Supported`.

What I'm actually trying to articulate is a way of measuring value of
the patch vs cost ... it has nothing really to do with who foots the
actual bill.

One thesis I'm actually starting to formulate is that this continual
devaluing of maintainers is why we have so much difficulty keeping and
recruiting them.

Absolutely.

This is just one of the factors involved, but a significant one IMV.