Thread (25 messages) 25 messages, 3 authors, 2025-05-14

Re: [PATCH v1 5/5] relayfs: uniformally use possible cpu iteration

From: Jason Xing <hidden>
Date: 2025-05-13 03:25:47
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On Tue, May 13, 2025 at 11:21 AM Andrew Morton
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On Tue, 13 May 2025 10:03:01 +0800 Jason Xing [off-list ref] wrote:
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On Tue, May 13, 2025 at 8:52 AM Andrew Morton [off-list ref] wrote:
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On Mon, 12 May 2025 10:49:35 +0800 Jason Xing [off-list ref] wrote:
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From: Jason Xing <kernelxing@tencent.com>

Use for_each_possible_cpu to create per-cpu relayfs file to avoid later
hotplug cpu which doesn't have its own file.
I don't understand this.  Exactly what problem are we trying to solve?
The reason behind this change is can we directly allocate per possible
cpu at the initialization phase. After this, even if some cpu goes
online, we don't need to care about it.

The idea is directly borrowed from the networking area where people
use possible cpu iteration for most cases.
I'd rephrase that as "I know this is wrong but I'm lazy so I'll do it
this way for now and I'll fix it up later but I never actually do so".

Yes, handling hotplug is a hassle and for_each_possible_cpu() saves a
couple of hours at development time, but its cost is forever.
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Reviewed-by: Yushan Zhou <redacted>
Signed-off-by: Jason Xing <kernelxing@tencent.com>
---
 kernel/relay.c | 4 ++--
 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
diff --git a/kernel/relay.c b/kernel/relay.c
index 27f7e701724f..dcb099859e83 100644
--- a/kernel/relay.c
+++ b/kernel/relay.c
@@ -519,7 +519,7 @@ struct rchan *relay_open(const char *base_filename,
      kref_init(&chan->kref);

      mutex_lock(&relay_channels_mutex);
-     for_each_online_cpu(i) {
+     for_each_possible_cpu(i) {
num_possible_cpus() can sometimes greatly exceed num_online_cpus(), so
this is an unfortunate change.
Are you worried about too much extra memory to waste in this case?
That, and the cost of iterating over 1024 CPUs instead of 4 CPUs!
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A relevant thing I would like to share here:
To keep the high performance of transferring data between kernel space
and user space, the per-cpu mechanism is needed like how relay works
at the moment. It allocates many unnecessary/big memory chunks
especially when the cpu number is very large, say, 256. I'm still
working on this to see if we can figure out a good approach to balance
the performance and memory.
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It would be better to implement the
hotplug notifier?
Right, but sorry, I hesitate to do so because it involves much more
work and corresponding tests.
I did this conversion a few times, a million years ago.  It's
surprisingly easy.
I see. Let me try this :)

Thanks,
Jason
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