Thread (80 messages) 80 messages, 12 authors, 2024-08-09

Re: [RFC PATCH v19 2/5] security: Add new SHOULD_EXEC_CHECK and SHOULD_EXEC_RESTRICT securebits

From: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
Date: 2024-07-20 02:06:42
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On Fri, Jul 5, 2024 at 3:02 AM Mickaël Salaün [off-list ref] wrote:
These new SECBIT_SHOULD_EXEC_CHECK, SECBIT_SHOULD_EXEC_RESTRICT, and
their *_LOCKED counterparts are designed to be set by processes setting
up an execution environment, such as a user session, a container, or a
security sandbox.  Like seccomp filters or Landlock domains, the
securebits are inherited across proceses.

When SECBIT_SHOULD_EXEC_CHECK is set, programs interpreting code should
check executable resources with execveat(2) + AT_CHECK (see previous
patch).

When SECBIT_SHOULD_EXEC_RESTRICT is set, a process should only allow
execution of approved resources, if any (see SECBIT_SHOULD_EXEC_CHECK).
I read this twice, slept on it, read them again, and I *still* can't
understand it.  See below...
The only restriction enforced by the kernel is the right to ptrace
another process.  Processes are denied to ptrace less restricted ones,
unless the tracer has CAP_SYS_PTRACE.  This is mainly a safeguard to
avoid trivial privilege escalations e.g., by a debugging process being
abused with a confused deputy attack.
What's the actual issue?  And why can't I, as root, do, in a carefully
checked, CHECK'd and RESTRICT'd environment, # gdb -p <pid>?  Adding
weird restrictions to ptrace can substantially *weaken* security
because it forces people to do utterly daft things to work around the
restrictions.

...
+/*
+ * When SECBIT_SHOULD_EXEC_CHECK is set, a process should check all executable
+ * files with execveat(2) + AT_CHECK.  However, such check should only be
+ * performed if all to-be-executed code only comes from regular files.  For
+ * instance, if a script interpreter is called with both a script snipped as
s/snipped/snippet/
+ * argument and a regular file, the interpreter should not check any file.
+ * Doing otherwise would mislead the kernel to think that only the script file
+ * is being executed, which could for instance lead to unexpected permission
+ * change and break current use cases.
This is IMO not nearly clear enough to result in multiple user
implementations and a kernel implementation and multiple LSM
implementations and LSM policy authors actually agreeing as to what
this means.

I also think it's wrong to give user code instructions about what
kernel checks it should do.  Have the user code call the kernel and
have the kernel implement the policy.
+/*
+ * When SECBIT_SHOULD_EXEC_RESTRICT is set, a process should only allow
+ * execution of approved files, if any (see SECBIT_SHOULD_EXEC_CHECK).  For
+ * instance, script interpreters called with a script snippet as argument
+ * should always deny such execution if SECBIT_SHOULD_EXEC_RESTRICT is set.
+ * However, if a script interpreter is called with both
+ * SECBIT_SHOULD_EXEC_CHECK and SECBIT_SHOULD_EXEC_RESTRICT, they should
+ * interpret the provided script files if no unchecked code is also provided
+ * (e.g. directly as argument).
I think you're trying to say that this is like (the inverse of)
Content-Security-Policy: unsafe-inline.  In other words, you're saying
that, if RESTRICT is set, then programs should not execute code-like
text that didn't come from a file.  Is that right?

I feel like it would be worth looking at the state of the art of
Content-Security-Policy and all the lessons people have learned from
it.  Whatever the result is should be at least as comprehensible and
at least as carefully engineered as Content-Security-Policy.

--Andy
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