On Thu, Aug 3, 2023 at 5:44 AM Mickaël Salaün [off-list ref] wrote:

On Wed, Aug 02, 2023 at 05:56:42PM -0400, Paul Moore wrote:

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On Wed, Aug 2, 2023 at 2:38 PM Mickaël Salaün [off-list ref] wrote:

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* There must be at least one LSM implementation of the hook included in the
submission to act as a reference for additional LSM implementations.  The
reference implementation must be for one of the upstream, in-kernel LSMs; while
the BPF LSM is an upstream LSM, it's nature precludes it from being eligible as
one of the in-kernel LSMs.

To avoid misunderstanding, I think it would be better and more generic
to focus on the out-of-tree nature of hook implementations.  We might
also want to give some pointers for the reason(s) why out-of-tree LSMs
use cases are not supported.

I'm open to new language here if you have some particular wording in mind?

What about this?

* Every hook must demonstrate its usefulness and be actually used by
  in-kernel code.  This is required to understand the purpose of the LSM
  hooks, their expected semantic, and to be able to guarantee security
  properties throughout kernel code changes (e.g., thanks to regression
  testing).  This means that out-of-tree kernel code and pass-through
  implementations (e.g., BPF LSM) are not eligible for such reference
  implementations.

Nice.  I made some slight changes while adding it to the doc, take a
look and let me know what you think.

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* The new LSM's author(s) must commit to maintain and support the new LSM for
an extended period of time.  While the authors may be currently employed to
develop and support the LSM, there is an expectation upstream that support will
continue beyond the author's employment with the original company, or the
company's backing of the LSM.

* New LSMs must include documentation providing a clear explanation of the
LSM's requirements, goals, and expected uses.  The documentation does not need
to rise to the level of a formal security model, but it must be considered
"reasonable" by the LSM community as a whole.

I guess defining the threat model would be a good first step (and we
should probably add this kind of description for current LSMs as well).

I believe that should be captured in the "requirements, goals, and
expected uses" portion of the requirement above, but if you believe it
should be more explicit let me know.

I think explicitly using "threat model" in this paragraph would be a
good idea.

Okay, I reworked that requirement slightly, please give it a look

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