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Re: Recommended value in CONFIG_LSM option on SELinux system?

From: Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>
Date: 2021-02-08 21:40:10
Also in: selinux

On 2/8/2021 12:35 PM, Nicolas Iooss wrote:
Hello,

Recently there was a bug in Arch Linux where SELinux was no longer
enabled after booting [1], because the default kernel configuration
changed recently [2]:

-CONFIG_LSM="lockdown,yama"
+CONFIG_LSM="lockdown,yama,bpf"
Neither of these settings will enable SELinux by default.
By doing so, setting "security=selinux" on the kernel command line
seemed to break the system, because reading /proc/$PID/attr/current
resulted in "Invalid argument" errors.
Is this in addition to an "lsm=" specification on the command line?
Replacing "security=selinux"
with "lsm=selinux,lockdown,yama,bpf" fixed the issue and everything is
now fine, but now I am wondering: how should CONFIG_LSM (and option
"lsm" on the kernel command line) be set, on a system which is using
SELinux?
CONFIG_SECURITY_SELINUX=y
CONFIG_DEFAULT_SECURITY_SELINUX=y
CONFIG_LSM="lockdown,yama,selinux"
Such information is lacking from the documentation [3] [4]. Therefore
I took a look at Fedora [5] and RHEL [6]:

* Fedora uses CONFIG_LSM="yama,loadpin,safesetid,integrity,selinux,smack,tomoyo,apparmor",
which was the default value until Linux 5.4 [7].
* RHEL uses CONFIG_LSM="yama,integrity,selinux".

It seems to be strange to have an "outdated" configuration value in
the configuration file, but this could be fine if the new modules are
not expected to be used without the kernel being booted with a
"lsm=..." option.
Keeping the "outdated" configuration values is necessary for
compatibility. We never intended that specifying either of
security= or lsm= on the boot line be required. Because there
is no way to maintain the old behavior of security=selinux
while allowing security=lockdown,yama,selinux we had to introduce
lsm=. 
But there is something that I did not understand: setting
"lsm=selinux,lockdown,yama,bpf" worked, /sys/kernel/security/lsm
showed "capability,selinux,lockdown,yama,bpf", but this violated what
the documentation stated [3]:
"A list of the active security modules can be found by reading
/sys/kernel/security/lsm. This is a comma separated list, and will
always include the capability module. The list reflects the order in
which checks are made. The capability module will always be first,
followed by any “minor” modules (e.g. Yama) and then the one “major”
module (e.g. SELinux) if there is one configured."

Is "lsm=selinux,lockdown,yama,bpf" really problematic?
The documentation is out of date regarding the "major" module
having to be last. That was true before the lsm= option was introduced.
TL;DR: It would be very helpful if there were some clear guidelines
which were documented in the kernel documentation about how to
configure CONFIG_LSM on SELinux systems.
Thanks for the feedback. We are at a mid-point in the development of
module stacking. It's not too late to make things better based on your
experience.
Thanks,
Nicolas

[1] https://github.com/archlinuxhardened/selinux/issues/81
[2] https://github.com/archlinux/svntogit-packages/commit/69cb8c2d2884181e799e67b09d67fcf7944d8408
[3] https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/v5.11-rc7/admin-guide/LSM/index.html
[4] https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/v5.11-rc7/admin-guide/LSM/SELinux.html
[5] https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/kernel/blob/dd9f5d552f96c5171a0f04170dbca7e74e8d13c7/f/kernel-x86_64-fedora.config#_3232
[6] https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/kernel/blob/dd9f5d552f96c5171a0f04170dbca7e74e8d13c7/f/kernel-x86_64-rhel.config#_2834
[7] commit https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=000d388ed3bbed745f366ce71b2bb7c2ee70f449
  
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