Thread (6 messages) 6 messages, 4 authors, 2018-05-18

[PATCH v2 3/9] security: define security_kernel_read_blob() wrapper

From: casey@schaufler-ca.com (Casey Schaufler)
Date: 2018-05-18 14:58:55
Also in: kexec, linux-integrity, lkml

On 5/18/2018 4:30 AM, Mimi Zohar wrote:
On Thu, 2018-05-17 at 22:37 -0500, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
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Casey Schaufler [off-list ref] writes:
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On 5/17/2018 7:48 AM, Mimi Zohar wrote:
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In order for LSMs and IMA-appraisal to differentiate between the original
and new syscalls (eg. kexec, kernel modules, firmware), both the original
and new syscalls must call an LSM hook.

Commit 2e72d51b4ac3 ("security: introduce kernel_module_from_file hook")
introduced calling security_kernel_module_from_file() in both the original
and new syscalls.  Commit a1db74209483 ("module: replace
copy_module_from_fd with kernel version") replaced these LSM calls with
security_kernel_read_file().

Commit e40ba6d56b41 ("firmware: replace call to fw_read_file_contents()
with kernel version") and commit b804defe4297  ("kexec: replace call to
copy_file_from_fd() with kernel version") replaced their own version of
reading a file from the kernel with the generic
kernel_read_file_from_path/fd() versions, which call the pre and post
security_kernel_read_file LSM hooks.

Missing are LSM calls in the original kexec syscall and firmware sysfs
fallback method.  From a technical perspective there is no justification
for defining a new LSM hook, as the existing security_kernel_read_file()
works just fine.  The original syscalls, however, do not read a file, so
the security hook name is inappropriate.  Instead of defining a new LSM
hook, this patch defines security_kernel_read_blob() as a wrapper for
the existing LSM security_kernel_file_read() hook.
What a marvelous opportunity to bikeshed!

I really dislike adding another security_ interface just because
the name isn't quite right. Especially a wrapper, which is just
code and execution overhead. Why not change security_kernel_read_file()
to security_kernel_read_blob() everywhere and be done?
Nacked-by: "Eric W. Biederman" [off-list ref]

Nack on this sharing nonsense.  These two interfaces do not share any
code in their implementations other than the if statement to distinguish
between the two cases.

Casey you are wrong.  We need something different here.

Mimi a wrapper does not cut it.   The code is not shared.  Despite using
a single function call today.

If we want comprehensible and maintainable code in the security modules
we need to split these two pieces of functionality apart.
kernel_read_file() is a common, generic method of reading a file from
the kernel, which is being called from a number of places. ?The
kernel_read_file_id enumeration is needed to differentiate between the
callers. ?The purpose of the new security_kernel_read_file() calls is
not for the kernel to read a file, but as a method of identifying the
original buffer based methods containing a file.

Having to define a separate LSM hook for each of the original, non
kernel_read_file(), buffer based method callers, kind of makes sense,
as the callers themselves are specific, but is it really necessary?
Could we define a new, generic LSM hook named
security_kernel_buffer_data() for this purpose?
If there are two disparate behaviors wrapped into kernel_read_file()
Eric (bless him) is right. It should be broken into two hooks. I think
that if we look (too) carefully we'll find other places where hooks
should get broken up, or combined*. My question is just how important
is it that this gets changed?

---
* calling security_inode_secid() and then immediately
  security_secid_to_secctx() grates on my sensibilities.


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