Thread (1 message) 1 message, 1 author, 2017-07-13

[PATCH v2] xattr: Enable security.capability in user namespaces

From: Eric W. Biederman <hidden>
Date: 2017-07-13 21:20:54
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"Serge E. Hallyn" [off-list ref] writes:
Quoting Eric W. Biederman (ebiederm at xmission.com):
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Stefan Berger [off-list ref] writes:
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On 07/13/2017 01:14 PM, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
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Theodore Ts'o [off-list ref] writes:
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On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 07:11:36AM -0500, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
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The concise summary:

Today we have the xattr security.capable that holds a set of
capabilities that an application gains when executed.  AKA setuid root exec
without actually being setuid root.

User namespaces have the concept of capabilities that are not global but
are limited to their user namespace.  We do not currently have
filesystem support for this concept.
So correct me if I am wrong; in general, there will only be one
variant of the form:

    security.foo at uid=15000

It's not like there will be:

    security.foo at uid=1000
    security.foo at uid=2000

Except.... if you have an Distribution root directory which is shared
by many containers, you would need to put the xattrs in the overlay
inodes.  Worse, each time you launch a new container, with a new
subuid allocation, you will have to iterate over all files with
capabilities and do a copy-up operations on the xattrs in overlayfs.
So that's actually a bit of a disaster.

So for distribution overlays, you will need to do things a different
way, which is to map the distro subdirectory so you know that the
capability with the global uid 0 should be used for the container
"root" uid, right?

So this hack of using security.foo at uid=1000 is *only* useful when the
subcontainer root wants to create the privileged executable.  You
still have to do things the other way.

So can we make perhaps the assertion that *either*:

    security.foo

exists, *or*

    security.foo at uid=BAR

exists, but never both?  And there BAR is exclusive to only one
instances?

Otherwise, I suspect that the architecture is going to turn around and
bite us in the *ss eventually, because someone will want to do
something crazy and the solution will not be scalable.
Yep.  That is what it looks like from here.

Which is why I asked the question about scalability of the xattr
implementations.  It looks like trying to accomodate the general
case just gets us in trouble, and sets unrealistic expectations.

Which strongly suggests that Serge's previous version that
just reved the format of security.capable so that a uid field could
be added is likely to be the better approach.

I want to see what Serge and Stefan have to say but the case looks
pretty clear cut at the moment.
I'm fine with that.  Now, we'll be doing the enforcement at xattr
write time, meaning someone *can* come up with an fs image with >1
such xattrs.  Which is *fine*, I believe, it won't break anything
security-wise, and our goal is only to stop users from thinking it
is legitimate two write multiple such xattrs, so that they don't later
bug the fs folks like Ted saying "hey why can't I write 1000 of these,
I think that's a bug."

So at xattr write time,

	1. if there is already an xattr, and it is either the global
	non-namespaced xattr, or it has kuid=X where X is the kuid
	mapped to root in a parent of the container, then we refuse
	the write
	2. if there is already an xattr, and it is for a kuid=X where
	X is mapped into the container, then we overwrite the existing
	xattr.

At read/use time, we use the rules we have now.

Does that seem reasonable?
That sounds like it would keep us to one xattr of any given type so yes.

It occurs to me while I am writing this that this is also important
for ima/evm.  There is an xattr that has a hash of all of the other
security relevant xattrs.   Without a limit on the number of xattrs
calculating that security xattr could become time prohibitive.


Eric

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