Re: [RFC v2] timers: Don't wake ktimersoftd on every tick
From: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
Date: 2016-12-23 17:29:01
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On 2016-12-13 15:44:05 [-0600], Haris Okanovic wrote:
Changed the way timers are collected per Julia and Thomas'
I can only see Julia's response to the initial thread.
recommendation: Expired timers are now collected in interrupt context and fired in ktimersoftd to avoid double-walk of `pending_map`. This is implemented by storing lists of expired timers in timer_base, which carries a memory overhead 9*sizeof(pointer) per CPU. The timer system uses hlist's which don't have end-node references, making it impossible to merge 2 hlist's in constant time. I.e. Merging requires walking one list. I also considered switching `vectors` to regular list's which don't have this limitations, but that approach has the same memory overhead. list_head is bigger than hlist_head by sizeof(pointer) and is instantiated 9+ times per CPU as `vectors`. I believe the only way to trim overhead is to spend more CPU cycles in interrupt context either in list merging (unbounded operation) or the original double-walk implementation. Any suggestions/preferences? As before, a 6h run of cyclictest without CPU affinity shows decrease in 22-70us latency range.
what does this mean? Your cyclictest runs on a random CPU with one thread only?
No change in max jitter.
Does this mean your average latency went down 20-70us and your max is the same?
No change when `-S` is used.
-S gives you one thread per core, makes sure it stays on that core and uses clock_nanosleep(). clock_nanosleep() should be used no matter what.
[Before/after traces] ftp://ftp.ni.com/outgoing/tp02-timer-peek-traces.tgz (Email me if link dies. Server periodically purges old files.) [Hardware/software/config] NI cRIO-9033 2 core Intel Atom CPU Kernel 4.8.6-rt5 CONFIG_HZ_PERIODIC=y [Outstanding concerns/issues/questions] I'm relatively new to the timer subsystem, so please feel free to poke as many holes as possible in this change. A few things that concern me at the moment are: Can jiffies change while one or more cpus is inside tick_sched_timer(), in interrupt context? I'm copying jiffies to a local variable in find_expired_timers() to ensure it doesn't run unbounded, but I'm not sure if that's necessary.
It could change. Only the house keeping does update jiffies in tick_sched_do_timer().
Any special considerations for testing NO_HZ builds? (Other than letting it run idle for a while) timers_dead_cpu() presently asserts no timer callback is actively running, which suggests that timers must be canceled prior to disabling CPUs; otherwise, there's a race between active timers and hotplug which can crash the whole kernel. Is this a safe assumption to make and are there any special considerations for CPU hotplug testing?
timers_dead_cpu() and hrtimers_dead_cpu() migrate timer away. At that point the CPU should be down already so a timer can't run on that CPU.
Other tests/performance benchmark I should run? Source: https://github.com/harisokanovic/linux/tree/dev/hokanovi/timer-peek-v2 Thanks, Haris
Sebastian