* Carlos Carvalho (carlos@fisica.ufpr.br) wrote:

Dr. David Alan Gilbert (dave@treblig.org) wrote on Mon, Aug 14, 2023 at 06:02:53PM -03:

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  I'm seeing a few hangs on a fs after upgrading to fedora 39's bleeding
edge; which is running kernel 6.5.0-0.rc5.20230808git14f9643dc90a.37.fc39.x86_64
It was always solid prior to that.  It seems to trigger on heavy IO
on this fs.

Good news! No, I didn't forget the smiley... Maybe now the problem has become
sufficiently bad to be visible/solvable...

6.4.* also doesn't run in one of our machines, which has heavy I/O load. The
first symptom is that rsync downloads hang and abort with timeout. 1 or 2
days later the amount of modified pages waiting to go to disk reaches several
GB, as reported by /proc/meminfo, but disks remain idle. Finally reading from
the arrays collapses.

I'm not sure this is a related fault - I mean it might be, but my
failure is much more deterministic; it seems solid on 6.4.x to me, but
just fails reliably somewhere in 6.5.

Dave

This is just the worst case. Since early 5.* I/O performance has dropped
absurdly. In all our disk servers this is easy to see: just generate lots of
writes quickly (for example expanding a kernel tarball). Using top I see that
kworker starts using 100% cpu but disks stay idle (as seen by dstat or sar). If
you do a sync or umount it takes looooong to reach ~0 modified pages for the
sync or umount to return.

In the server I mentioned above where 6.4.* don't stand the load, which is one
of the largest free software mirrors of the world, even sometimes 6.1
collapses: I/O becomes so slow that service (apache) stops.

The problem gets progressively worse with time after booting. It's hardly
noticeable in the first hour after boot, and easily seen after ~3-4 days of
uptime. The higher the (write) I/O load the faster it appears.

All this is with ext4 and raid6 with >~ 14 disks in the arrays.

I don't have debug info because these are production machines and I only
compile in the kernel the bare minimum essential for operation. It's always
pure kernel.org releases; gcc versions vary, for 6.4* it's gcc-13, for 6.1*
gcc-12 is used, on Debian unstable updated more than 4 times/week.

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