Thread (4 messages) 4 messages, 3 authors, 2011-11-24

Re: Is it possible to change the wait time before a drive is concidered failed?

From: NeilBrown <hidden>
Date: 2011-11-21 01:58:06

On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 18:41:44 +0000 wilsonjonathan [off-list ref]
wrote:
I realise that what I am attempting is not very standard in terms of
raid, however this is my logic and reasoning...

I am setting up a home server that while on 24/7 will only be in use
when either myself (linux) or my son (windows) are using it, so usage
will vary and power concerns (Electricity in the UK is extortionately
priced!) and longevity are important.

My set up in theory is the following using GPT partitioning.
quoted
sda 6 partitions
quoted
free space     1MiB
sda1 bios_boot 1MiB
sda2 /boot     200MiB  raid1  md2
sda3 /         8GiB    raid1  md3
sda4 *swap     9GiB    (will be "raided" using pri=1)
sda5 /download 40GiB   raid10 md4
sda6 /thecube  ~950Gib raid6  md5
free space     ~20MiB
sdb same as sda

sdc 1 partition
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free space     enough space to place sdc6 the same start as sda6
sdc6 /thecube  same as sda6
free space
sd[df] same as sdc
The reason for partitioning this way is that all w.i.p. or downloads,
torrents, etc. will first go into /download and once complete will be
moved into /thecube for long term read only storage

As /thecube is going to be used less often than sd[ab] it would be
advantages to have sd[df] power down and when the system is not in use
at all have sd[ab] also power down.

This should increase the lifespan of the drives... and yes I do know
that drives are more likely to fail when powering up, but I also have
real life evidence when I used to work on AS/400s that they fail on
power up if they have hardly ever been turned off more often than if
they have regular power off/on cycles :-)

I may even look at suspend to ram and magic packets if the system is not
accessed in say 1 hour, although this is less likely to be implemented!

Ok so that’s the reasoning behind the question.



I do have a couple of related questions...

I have already done some testing by setting up sd[ab] for md[2-4] but
with no file systems on top, and then pulling sdb and then putting it
back in.

q1, why does -add throw up the message : not performing --add, re-add
failed, zero superblock...
Because some people seem to use "--add" when they mean "--re-add" and that
can cause data loss.  So to be safe, if want want to discard all the data on
a device and add it as a true spare, you now need to --zero-superblock
first.  Hopefully that isn't too much of a burden.
q2, I setup md4 as a raid10 far 2, and I may not be understanding raid10
here; when I zero the superblock to add it as I did with the other raids
which worked ok, for some reason it causes sda4 to drop out and kills
the whole md4 raid.
You must be running linux-3.1.  It has a bug with exactly this behaviour.
It should be fixed in the latest -stable release.  Upstream commit 
   7fcc7c8acf0fba44d19a713207af7e58267c1179
fixes it.

q3, Is it preferable to have a write intent bitmap, and if so should I
put it in the meta-data as opposed to a file.
A write intent bitmap can make writes a little slower but makes resync after
a crash much master.  You get to choose which you want.
It is much more convenient in the internal metadata.  Having the bitmap in an
external file and reduce the performance cost a bit (if the file is on a
separate device).
I would only recommend a separate file if you have an asymmetric mirror with
one leg (the slow leg) marked write-mostly.  You don't really want the bitmap
on that device, so put it somewhere else.

NeilBrown



Thanks in advance.

Jon.

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