Thread (7 messages) 7 messages, 4 authors, 2007-06-22

Re: limits on raid

From: David Greaves <hidden>
Date: 2007-06-22 08:11:15
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Neil Brown wrote:
On Thursday June 21, davidsen@tmr.com wrote:
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I didn't get a comment on my suggestion for a quick and dirty fix for 
-assume-clean issues...

Bill Davidsen wrote:
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How about a simple solution which would get an array on line and still 
be safe? All it would take is a flag which forced reconstruct writes 
for RAID-5. You could set it with an option, or automatically if 
someone puts --assume-clean with --create, leave it in the superblock 
until the first "repair" runs to completion. And for repair you could 
make some assumptions about bad parity not being caused by error but 
just unwritten.
It is certainly possible, and probably not a lot of effort.  I'm not
really excited about it though.

So if someone to submit a patch that did the right stuff,  I would
probably accept it, but I am unlikely to do it myself.

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Thought 2: I think the unwritten bit is easier than you think, you 
only need it on parity blocks for RAID5, not on data blocks. When a 
write is done, if the bit is set do a reconstruct, write the parity 
block, and clear the bit. Keeping a bit per data block is madness, and 
appears to be unnecessary as well.
Where do you propose storing those bits?  And how many would you cache
in memory?  And what performance hit would you suffer for accessing
them?  And would it be worth it?
Sometimes I think one of the problems with Linux is that it tries to do 
everything for everyone.

That's not a bad thing - until you look at the complexity it brings - and then 
consider the impact and exceptions when you do, eg hardware acceleration? md 
information fed up to the fs layer for xfs? simple long term maintenance?

Often these problems are well worth the benefits of the feature.

I _wonder_ if this is one where the right thing is to "just say no" :)

David
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