Re: [PATCH v4 2/3] sched/fair: Take thermal pressure into account while estimating energy
From: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
Date: 2021-06-16 19:26:05
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On Wed, 16 Jun 2021 at 19:24, Dietmar Eggemann [off-list ref] wrote:
On 15/06/2021 18:09, Lukasz Luba wrote:quoted
On 6/15/21 4:31 PM, Dietmar Eggemann wrote:quoted
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It's important to highlight that this will only fix this issue between schedutil and EAS when it's due to `thermal pressure` (today only via CPU cooling). There are other places which could restrict policy->max via freq_qos_update_request() and EAS will be unaware of it.True, but for this I have some other plans.As long as people are aware of the fact that this was developed to be beneficial for `EAS - IPA` integration, I'm fine with this.
I don't think it's only for EAS - IPA. Thermal_pressure can be used by HW throttling like here: https://lkml.org/lkml/2021/6/8/1791 EAS is involved but not IPA
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IMHO, this means that this is catered for the IPA governor then. I'm not sure if this would be beneficial when another thermal governor is used?Yes, it will be, the cpufreq_set_cur_state() is called by thermal exported function: thermal_cdev_update() __thermal_cdev_update() thermal_cdev_set_cur_state() cdev->ops->set_cur_state(cdev, target) So it can be called not only by IPA. All governors call it, because that's the default mechanism.True, but I'm still not convinced that it is useful outside `EAS - IPA`.quoted
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The mechanical side of the code would allow for such benefits, I just don't know if their CPU cooling device + thermal zone setups would cater for this?Yes, it's possible. Even for custom vendor governors (modified clones of IPA)Let's stick to mainline here ;-) It's complicated enough ... [...]quoted
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Maybe shorter? struct cpumask *pd_mask = perf_domain_span(pd); - unsigned long cpu_cap = arch_scale_cpu_capacity(cpumask_first(pd_mask)); + int cpu = cpumask_first(pd_mask); + unsigned long cpu_cap = arch_scale_cpu_capacity(cpu); + unsigned long _cpu_cap = cpu_cap - arch_scale_thermal_pressure(cpu); unsigned long max_util = 0, sum_util = 0; - unsigned long _cpu_cap = cpu_cap; - int cpu; - - _cpu_cap -= arch_scale_thermal_pressure(cpumask_first(pd_mask));Could be, but still, the definitions should be sorted from longest on top, to shortest at the bottom. I wanted to avoid modifying too many lines with this simple patch.Only if there are no dependencies, but here we have already `cpu_cap -> pd_mask`. OK, not a big deal. [...]quoted
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There is IPA specific code in cpufreq_set_cur_state() -> get_state_freq() which accesses the EM: ... return cpufreq_cdev->em->table[idx].frequency; ... Has it been discussed that the `per-PD max (allowed) CPU capacity` (1) could be stored in the EM from there so that code like the EAS wakeup code (compute_energy()) could retrieve this information from the EM?No, we haven't think about this approach in these patch sets. The EM structure given to the cpufreq_cooling device and stored in: cpufreq_cdev->em should not be modified. There are a few places which receive the EM, but they all should not touch it. For those clients it's a read-only data structure.quoted
And there wouldn't be any need to pass (1) into the EM (like now via em_cpu_energy()). This would be signalling within the EM compared to external signalling via `CPU cooling -> thermal pressure <- EAS wakeup -> EM`.I see what you mean, but this might cause some issues in the design (per-cpu scmi cpu perf control). Let's use this EM pointer gently ;)OK, with the requirement that clients see the EM as ro: Reviewed-by: Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>