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Re: [PATCH] mm,page_alloc: softlockup on warn_alloc on

From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
Date: 2017-09-15 14:24:00

On Fri 15-09-17 23:12:24, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
Michal Hocko wrote:
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On Fri 15-09-17 21:09:29, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
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Michal Hocko wrote:
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On Fri 15-09-17 20:38:49, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
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You said "identify _why_ we see the lockup trigerring in the first
place" without providing means to identify it. Unless you provide
means to identify it (in a form which can be immediately and easily
backported to 4.9 kernels; that is, backporting not-yet-accepted
printk() offloading patchset is not a choice), this patch cannot be
refused.
I fail to see why. It simply workarounds an existing problem elsewhere
in the kernel without deeper understanding on where the problem is. You
can add your own instrumentation to debug and describe the problem. This
is no different to any other kernel bugs...
Please do show us your patch for that. Normal users cannot afford developing
such instrumentation to debug and describe the problem.
Stop this nonsense already! Any kernel bug/lockup needs a debugging
which might be non-trivial and it is necessary to understand the real
culprit. We do not add random hacks to silence a problem. We aim at
fixing it!
Assuming that Wang Yu's trace has

  RIP: 0010:[<...>]  [<...>] dump_stack+0x.../0x...

line in the omitted part (like Cong Wang's trace did), I suspect that a thread
which is holding dump_lock is unable to leave console_unlock() from printk() for
so long because many other threads are trying to call printk() from warn_alloc()
while consuming all CPU time.
__dump_stack should be an atomic context AFAIR. But as we already
discussed some time ago this lock is not fair and one function might
bounce for too long.
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

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