Thread (38 messages) 38 messages, 4 authors, 2014-07-21

Re: [RFC PATCH 0/11] Support Write-Through mapping on x86

From: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <hidden>
Date: 2014-07-16 00:44:28
Also in: lkml

On July 15, 2014 5:23:24 PM EDT, Toshi Kani [off-list ref] wrote:
On Tue, 2014-07-15 at 13:09 -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
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On 07/15/2014 12:34 PM, Toshi Kani wrote:
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This RFC patchset is aimed to seek comments/suggestions for the
design
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and changes to support of Write-Through (WT) mapping.  The study
below
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shows that using WT mapping may be useful for non-volatile memory.

  http://www.hpl.hp.com/techreports/2012/HPL-2012-236.pdf

There were idea & patches to support WT in the past, which
stimulated
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very valuable discussions on this topic.

  https://lkml.org/lkml/2013/4/24/424
  https://lkml.org/lkml/2013/10/27/70
  https://lkml.org/lkml/2013/11/3/72

This RFC patchset tries to address the issues raised by taking the
following design approach:

 - Keep the MTRR interface
 - Keep the WB, WC, and UC- slots in the PAT MSR
 - Keep the PAT bit unused
 - Reassign the UC slot to WT in the PAT MSR

There are 4 usable slots in the PAT MSR, which are currently
assigned to:
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  PA0/4: WB, PA1/5: WC, PA2/6: UC-, PA3/7: UC

The PAT bit is unused since it shares the same bit as the PSE bit
and
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there was a bug in older processors.  Among the 4 slots, the
uncached
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memory type consumes 2 slots, UC- and UC.  They are functionally
equivalent, but UC- allows MTRRs to overwrite it with WC.  All
interfaces
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that set the uncached memory type use UC- in order to work with
MTRRs.
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The PA3/7 slot is effectively unused today.  Therefore, this
patchset
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reassigns the PA3/7 slot to WT.  If MTRRs get deprecated in future,
UC- can be reassigned to UC, and there is still no need to consume
2 slots for the uncached memory type.
Not going to happen any time in the forseeable future.

Furthermore, I don't think it is a big deal if on some old, buggy
processors we take the performance hit of cache type demotion, as
long
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as we don't actively lose data.
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This patchset is consist of two parts.  The 1st part, patch [1/11]
to
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[6/11], enables WT mapping and adds new interfaces for setting WT
mapping.
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The 2nd part, patch [7/11] to [11/11], cleans up the code that has
internal knowledge of the PAT slot assignment.  This keeps the
kernel
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code independent from the PAT slot assignment.
I have given this piece of feedback at least three times now,
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to different people, and I'm getting a bit grumpy about it:

We already have an issue with Xen, because Xen assigned mappings
differently and it is incompatible with the use of PAT in Linux.  As
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result we get requests for hacks to work around this, which is
something
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I really don't want to see.  I would like to see a design involving a
"reverse PAT" table where the kernel can hold the mapping between
memory
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types and page table encodings (including the two different ones for
small and large pages.)
Thanks for pointing this out! (And sorry for making you repeat it three
time...)  I was not aware of the issue with Xen.  I will look into the
email archive to see what the Xen issue is, and how it can be
addressed.
https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/11/8/406
Thanks,
-Toshi

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