Re: [RFC v3 0/5] Transparent on-demand struct page initialization embedded in the buddy allocator
From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Date: 2013-08-14 11:27:47
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* Linus Torvalds [off-list ref] wrote:
On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 4:10 PM, Nathan Zimmer [off-list ref] wrote:quoted
The only mm structure we are adding to is a new flag in page->flags. That didn't seem too much.I don't agree. I see only downsides, and no upsides. Doing the same thing *without* the downsides seems straightforward, so I simply see no reason for any extra flags or tests at runtime.
The code as presented clearly looks more involved and neither simple nor zero-cost - I was hoping for a much more simple approach. I see three solutions: - Speed up the synchronous memory init code: live migrate to the node being set up via set_cpus_allowed(), to make sure the init is always fast and local. Pros: if it solves the problem then mem init is still synchronous, deterministic and essentially equivalent to what we do today - so relatively simple and well-tested, with no 'large machine' special path. Cons: it might not be enough and we might not have scheduling enabled on the affected nodes yet. - Speed up the synchronous memory init code by paralellizing the key, most expensive initialization portion of setting up the page head arrays to per node, via SMP function-calls. Pros: by far the fastest synchronous option. (It will also test the power budget and the mains fuses right during bootup.) Cons: more complex and depends on SMP cross-calls being available at mem init time. Not necessarily hotplug friendly. - Avoid the problem by punting to async mem init. Pros: it gets us to a minimal working system quickly and leaves the memory code relatively untouched. Disadvantages: makes memory state asynchronous and non-deterministic. Stats either fluctuate shortly after bootup or have to be faked. Thanks, Ingo -- To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in the body to majordomo@kvack.org. For more info on Linux MM, see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ . Don't email: <a href=mailto:"dont@kvack.org"> email@kvack.org </a>