Thread (46 messages) 46 messages, 8 authors, 2007-08-26

Re: [RFC 0/7] Postphone reclaim laundry to write at high water marks

From: Christoph Lameter <hidden>
Date: 2007-08-23 20:23:18
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On Thu, 23 Aug 2007, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
On Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at 03:32:25PM -0700, Christoph Lameter wrote:
quoted
1. Like in the earlier patchset allow reentry to reclaim under 
   PF_MEMALLOC if we are out of all memory.
Can you simply tweak on the may_writepage flag only to achieve the
second pass? We're talking here about a totally non-performance case,
almost impossible to hit in practice unless you do real weird things,
and certainly very unlikely to happen. So I'm unsure what's all that
complexity just to make a regular pass on the lru looking for clean
pages, something may_writepage=0 already does.
Yes that is what the PF_MEMALLOC patch that I posted before does. This 
discussion gets me more and more to thinking that the recursive reclaim on 
PF_MEMALLOC is all that is needed for emergency situations (to get out of 
the "tight spot").

See
http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=118710219116624&w=2
If the PF_MEMALLOC is found empty, I agree entering reclaim a second
time with may_writepage=0 sounds theoretically a good idea (in
practice it should never be necessary). printk must also be printed to
warn the user he was risking to deadlock for real and he has to
increase the min_free_kbytes.
Ok. I can add a printk to that one.
That sounds a bit risky, there are latency considerations here to
make, GFP_ATOMIC will run with irq locally disabled and it may hang
for indefinite amount of time (O(N)). So irq latency may break and it
may be better to lose a packet once in a while than to hang
interrupts. If you want to do this you'd probably need to add a new
GFP_ATOMIC_RECLAIM or similar.
Well we could do the same as for PF_MEMALLOC: print a warning and then 
reclaim nevertheless if we cannot fail (We already have a GFP_NOFAIL 
flag). It is better to generate a latency than the system failing 
altogether. However the GFP_ATOMIC reclaim patchset is a 
bit more invasive (http://marc.info/?l=linux-mm&m=118710584014150&w=2). 
Maybe this is too much churn for the rare need of such a reclaim.
 

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