Thread (8 messages) 8 messages, 6 authors, 14d ago

Re: Stop compressing manual pages

From: Alejandro Colomar <alx@kernel.org>
Date: 2026-04-19 06:51:07

Hi Colin,

On 2025-12-25T11:06:34-0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
Alejandro Colomar [off-list ref] writes:
quoted
On Thu, Dec 25, 2025 at 02:47:33PM +0100, Dr. Tobias Quathamer wrote:
quoted
Am 25.12.25 um 12:20 schrieb Alejandro Colomar:
quoted
quoted
quoted
Indeed, compressed manual pages are a pain to work with.  You can't use
regular Unix tools to work with them.  With uncompressed manual pages,
You can go to /usr/share/man, and run a pipe of programs to do a complex
search.  With tools like zgrep(1) and zcat(1), you can do some stuff,
but not everything.
[...]
quoted
quoted
thanks for your bug report and the provided statistics. I haven't thought
about this up until now, because it violates Debian Policy. Quoting from
Section 12.1
(https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-docs.html#manual-pages):

"Manual pages should be installed compressed using gzip -9."
[...]
quoted
Yup, I'd like that policy to change.  I've added debian-policy@ to this
mail (and also linux-man@).
Colin, do you have an opinion on this as the man-db maintainer? The
software you maintain is probably the primary consumer by a significant
margin of the installed manual pages.
Ping.


Have a lovely day!
Alex
The rationale in Debian for compressing documentation in general is for
embedded systems and other small installations, and it applies to just
about anything that can be safely compressed (manual pages are only one
example). But this rule also predates such facilities as the nodoc build
profile, and is several decades old and thus predates the growth in
storage size even in small embedded environments that has significantly
outpaced the size of text-adjacent documents. I would definitely want to
get feedback from embedded folks before changing this rule, but at least
at first glance it sounds like a reasonable request worth considering.

-- 
Russ Allbery (rra@debian.org)              <https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>
-- 
<https://www.alejandro-colomar.es>

Attachments

Keyboard shortcuts
hback out one level
jnext message in thread
kprevious message in thread
ldrill in
Escclose help / fold thread tree
?toggle this help