Thread (12 messages) 12 messages, 3 authors, 2021-08-15

Re: [PATCH] HID: Support Microsoft Surface Duo SPI-based touch controller driver as a module.

flat view

From: Benjamin Tissoires <hidden>
Date: 2021-08-13 08:12:04

On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 7:13 AM Felipe Balbi [off-list ref] wrote:

Hi,

Benjamin Tissoires [off-list ref] writes:
quoted
quoted
quoted
On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 2:13 AM Dmitry Antipov [off-list ref] wrote:
quoted
Surface Duo uses a touch digitizer that communicates to the main SoC via SPI
and presents itself as a HID device. This patch contains the changes needed
for the driver to work as a module: HID Core affordances for SPI devices,
addition of the new Device IDs, and a new quirk in hid-microsoft. The driver
itself is being prepared for a submission in the near future.

Signed-off-by: Dmitry Antipov dmanti@microsoft.com
Though I really appreciate seeing a microsoft.com submission, the
commit description makes me wonder if we should not postpone the
inclusion of this patch with the "submission in the near future".

AFAIK, HID is not SPI aware. So basically, we are introducing dead
code in the upstream kernel if we take this patch.
Right, unfortunately spec isn't public yet (albeit having products
shipped using it and a driver available in a public tree somewhere I
couldn't find).

I _do_ have one question though:

Is there a way to tell hid core that $this device wants hidraw? If we
Depending on what you want and can do I can think of several solutions:
- add a quirk for this device (either at boot time, either in
hid-quirks.c) There must be one that tells to only bind to hidraw
- provide an out of the tree driver that declares the BUS:VID:PID, and
start the HID device with HIDRAW only.
sounds good
I did some more digging this morning.

The quirk option is not especially good, there is no "hidraw only" quirk.
However, there is a "HID_QUIRK_HAVE_SPECIAL_DRIVER" that prevents
hid-generic from binding to your device. This has the same effect as
adding the device in the hid-quirks.c in this submission, so for
development purposes, if the device is messed up by hid-generic, I
would advise to add this quirk (maybe from the development spi
transport driver as a temporary work around).

To have the device bound to hidraw only, then yes, if you provide a
simple out of the tree module that binds to this module, hid-generic
will release the device and let this out of the tree module deal with
it.

AFAICT, the hid-core changes you are asking here should not block the
development process if they are not merged. You'll get an "UNKOWN" bus
in the logs, and the SPI_HID_DEVICE macro can be defined in the out of
the tree driver.
quoted
quoted
remove the hid-microsoft changes, hid-generic will pick the device as
expected, but this really needs hidraw. Any hints?
I am fine with the hid-microsoft changes, I just want them in a
separate commit. But I don't see why we would take only the first one
without the SPI transport and the hid-microsoft code...

Basically: not sure why you need hidraw for it.
Yeah, the touch controller is "peculiar". It sends to the host raw
frames which needs to be processed by a userspace application. We don't
get coordinates, pressure, etc. We get raw values from the touch
digitizer; these are passed to a daemon which runs your usual filters
(palm rejection, denoising, yada yada yada) and produces the actual
touch inputs. Those are, in turn, given to uinput.
In that case, maybe hidraw is not the best way to forward the events.

V4L has a capability to export raw touch events. You can have a look
at drivers/input/rmi4/rmi_f54.c, drivers/input/touchscreen/sur40.c or
drivers/input/touchscreen/atmel_mxt_ts.c for some examples.
The nice thing is you'll get parallel processing and DMA between the
kernel and userspace. Also, there must be userspace tools around that
are already capable of dealing with that kind of input. Though I also
understand the need to have your own sauce.

Cheers,
Benjamin
Keyboard shortcuts
hback out one level
jnext message in thread
kprevious message in thread
ldrill in
Escclose help / fold thread tree
?toggle this help