Thread (45 messages) 45 messages, 4 authors, 2013-06-30

Re: [PATCH v1 01/12] input: matrix-keypad: update devicetree binding doc

From: Stephen Warren <hidden>
Date: 2013-06-24 22:00:26
Also in: linux-arm-kernel, linux-devicetree

On 06/22/2013 03:23 AM, Gerhard Sittig wrote:
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On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 15:31 -0600, Stephen Warren wrote:
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On 06/21/2013 12:09 PM, Gerhard Sittig wrote:
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update the device tree binding documentation for the GPIO matrix keypad
driver: mention the driver's selecting all columns at once, reword the
delay descriptions, add the missing active low GPIO pin level property
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diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/input/gpio-matrix-keypad.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/input/gpio-matrix-keypad.txt
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+Simple keypad matrix layouts just connect GPIO lines to mechanical
+switches, with no other active components involved.  Although due to the
I don't think that's always true. On some Tegra boards for example,
multiple processes can "press" certain switches, so we actually have a
wired-OR feed into a transistor which then connects a particular
(column, row) combination. We do this e.g. for remote-control USB over
the power button for example. I believe the effect is the same, but it
does mean that statement above isn't quite true.
That's why I wrote about "simple ... layouts", but couldn't tell
exactly when it was appropriate to discuss the more advanced
setups as well, and in how much depth to do that in the device
tree binding.

So is there a better way of putting this?  Is the "simple" or the
"mechanical" the issue in the description?
I think both "simple" and "mechanical" should be removed. My reasoning:

At the level of connection between rows/columns, aren't all matrix
keypads set up such that something connects a row to a column to signify
a keypress, not just "simple layouts".

Similarly, "mechanical" should be removed since it's not always true,
and even if it were, it would be irrelevant to anything outside the
keyboard, perhaps aside from the need to debounce.

In fact, thinking about this more, I think all four paragraphs of text
that this patch adds would be better in Documentation/input/, as you
mentioned elsewhere. When introducing any extra properties, you could
mention their potential use by a driver, as explanation for why they're
useful, but there's probably no need to describe the complete operation
of the driver in the DT binding.
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+- gpio-activelow:	row pins as well as column pins are active low
That one change is definitely wrong. Each entry in row-gpios and
col-gpios should include GPIO flags (in a format defined by the binding
for the DT node providing the GPIO). Those flags include an active-high
vs. active-low bit. In Linux, you can use of_get_gpio_flags() to
retrieve a standardized representation of the flags.
See my introduction above.  This isn't a "change", it's just
catching up in the documentation and adding what was omitted
before.
Oh dear, that's quite unfortunate. I see that even though that property
wasn't documented in the binding doc, arch/powerpc/boot/dts/ac14xx.dts
has still already used it, so we probably can't fix it. I suppose we
must simply document it, and ignore the shortcomings of that binding:-(
And I can see another issue here (maybe shadowed by the wording I
used, referring to "row pins"):  The fact that a pin may be
inverted (within the SoC), and the fact that an externally
connected component might require low active stimulus over
otherwise high active pins/connections, might need to get
reflected well.  Or am I too picky here?

Are there other cases to learn from, where non-inverted physical
pins get attached to components which require inverted logical
information?  Do we combine the overall polarity within the GPIO
pin's abstraction, or do logical drivers above GPIO handle the
inversion?
In general, I would expect the binding to represent the overall
effective polarity of the signal that must be programmed into the
relevant GPIO controller. SW doesn't really care how/why the signal is
inverted, simply that it needs to (or doesn't) invert the signal when it
programs the GPIO controller.
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