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RE: [RFC PATCH 01/06] input/rmi4: Public header and documentation

From: Christopher Heiny <hidden>
Date: 2012-10-11 03:54:28
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Mark Brown wrote:
On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 09:43:13AM +0200, Linus Walleij wrote:
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On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 6:09 AM, Christopher Heiny [off-list ref] wrote:
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+ * @cs_assert - For systems where the SPI subsystem does not control
the CS/SSB + * line, or where such control is broken, you can provide a
custom routine to + * handle a GPIO as CS/SSB.  This routine will be
called at the beginning and + * end of each SPI transaction.  The RMI
SPI implementation will wait + * pre_delay_us after this routine
returns before starting the SPI transfer; + * and post_delay_us after
completion of the SPI transfer(s) before calling it + * with
assert==FALSE.
Hm hm, can you describe the case where this happens?

Usually we don't avoid fixes for broken drivers by duct-taping
solutions into other drivers, instead we fix the SPI driver.

I can think of systems where CS is asserted not by using
GPIO but by poking some special register for example, which
is a valid reason for including this, but working around broken
SPI drivers is not a valid reason to include this.

(Paging Mark about it.)
Yeah, this seems silly - by this logic we'd have to go round implementing
manual /CS control in every single SPI client driver which isn't
terribly sensible.  The driver should just assume that the SPI
controller does what it's told.  As you say if there's an issue the
relevant controller driver should take care of things.

We should also have generic support in the SPI framework for GPIO based
/CS, there's enough drivers open coding this already either due to
hardware limitations or to support extra chip selects.

The ability of SPI hardware and driver authors to get /CS right is
pretty depressing :/
You will get no argument at all from me on that point.  I'll even add board layout engineers to the list ("it wasn't convenient to run CS, so we just used a different pin.  You can just mux it, right?").  Basically this feature exists to help get prototype systems up and running while the SPI hardware/driver/layout matures.

If this feature is a deal-breaker, we can take it out.  In the absence of a generic GPIO implementation for CS, though, I'd much rather leave it in.  Once generic GPIO CS arrives, we'll remove it pretty quickly.  
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