Thread (25 messages) 25 messages, 3 authors, 2009-12-16

Re: synaptics touchpad doesn't click

From: Takashi Iwai <hidden>
Date: 2009-12-16 07:14:19
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At Tue, 15 Dec 2009 22:56:53 -0800,
Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 07:50:54AM +0100, Takashi Iwai wrote:
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At Tue, 15 Dec 2009 18:59:34 -0800,
Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
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On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 06:05:06PM -0700, Alex Chiang wrote:
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* Dmitry Torokhov [off-list ref]:
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The updated patch is below.

-- 
Dmitry
Should I test this one or wait one more iteration to address
Takashi's last comments?
Actually I think we took the wrong direction with the original patch and
we should do what other buttonless devices (bcm5974) do: report touchpad
click as left button and have Synaptics X driver provide enhanced
support. This way we can have both modes (ClickZones and ClickButtons)
and users will get to chose (provided that someone takes time to add
that support to Synaptics driver of course ;) ).
My concern is, still, how would you identify this device.  Will you
extend also some ioctls to expose caps and extcaps?  Otherwise it's
difficult to identify this device automatically from the user-space.
No.. Synaptics without right button == ClickPad.
So, is there only Clickpad device that has a single button?
No other option?
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The user-space can know that it's button-less, yes.  But, how can it
know whether the device should be emulated via ClickZone?
We can use a driver option to x11 synaptics driver for that, as I
already sent you another patch.  However, the driver option is
nowadays not preferred because xorg.conf is being dead on new
systems...
Driver still takes options, from UDEV/HAL. We could pick one behavior
by default and ovverride, by box vendor/model (DMI).
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Or maybe HAL (or whatever upcoming one) can check the vendor/product
id of the machine (not the device) to provide the information.  OTOH
this will also need frequent updates.
Hopefully vendors won;t be flip/flopping between ClickZone and
ClickButtons too much. Still option is better than hardcoding ClickZone
for everyone.
Yeah, I agree that hard-coding isn't good, and that's why I first
posted separated patches.  OTOH, the kernel-side hack makes the device
working *as is* even without changing anything else.


Takashi
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