On Thu, Jul 12, 2007 at 12:22:10PM -0400, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:

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Hmm, they use KEY_0 through KEY_9 now.

Which results in the phone sending 'é+ěščřžýáí' instead of 
'0123456789'
on a Czech keyboard, which is definitely not what's intended. Similarly
for many other European keyboards.

Hmm, I uttely confused. Why when atkbd emits KEY_0 it you get 0 in the
shell (don't you?) but different result with phone keypad?

No, on a Czech keyboard you don't. You press KEY_0, you get 'é'. The
French layout gives sililar results. (For '0' you need to press
KEY_SHIFT KEY_0.)

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I'll have to figure out where does KEY_103RD come from. I believe it was
defined as a key similar to KEY_102ND on specific national keyboards.
Brazil springs to mind, but I might be completely wrong. If it's not in
use today, we might as well kill it and reuse the code.

You had it in the beginning but it was removed around 2.6.2 so 84 is
free at the moment.

OK then.

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I don't think that it'd be a huge problem to expand KEY_MAX. I'm not
entirely convinced we want to have a different event code for every
different key numbered '5'.

But they are different as in people expect different actions when they
press 5 on the keyboard, keypad, remote control and phone, don't they?

Maybe yes. If they had a input device from hell combining all this
functionality into one, they'd likely still want to differentiate
between the keys.

Well, maybe not... I can argue both ways I guess... It's more like
people may not want input from certain devices be used by certain
programs (like they don't like RC cause numbers to be printed in the
shell). 

But people like the fact that the 'voip' phone devices type regular keys
into the voip client programs, because that's what the programs expect,
the keys typed on a regular keyboard ...

You can't win in all cases.

So far they used grabbing on the devices but I don't think
this is sustainable in the long run.

They likely want per-device keymaps. This would also allow to have two
keyboards, with different language layouts, connected at the same time.
I know a number of people asked how to do that in the past.

-- 
Vojtech Pavlik
Director SuSE Labs