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Re: [PATCHSET 0/2] dax: fix broken pmem poison narrative

From: "Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>
Date: 2021-08-17 15:46:05
Also in: linux-fsdevel, linux-xfs

On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 08:39:00AM +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 02:05:18PM -0700, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
quoted
AFAICT, the only reason why the "punch and write" dance works at all is
that the XFS and ext4 currently call blkdev_issue_zeroout when
allocating pmem as part of a pwrite call.  A pwrite without the punch
won't clear the poison, because pwrite on a DAX file calls
dax_direct_access to access the memory directly, and dax_direct_access
is only smart enough to bail out on poisoned pmem.  It does not know how
to clear it.  Userspace could solve the problem by calling FIEMAP and
issuing a BLKZEROOUT, but that requires rawio capabilities.

The whole pmem poison recovery story is is wrong and needs to be
corrected ASAP before everyone else starts doing this.  Therefore,
create a dax_zeroinit_range function that filesystems can call to reset
the contents of the pmem to a known value and clear any state associated
with the media error.  Then, connect FALLOC_FL_ZERO_RANGE to this new
function (for DAX files) so that unprivileged userspace has a safe way
to reset the pmem and clear media errors.
I agree with the problem statement, but I don't think the fix is
significantly better than what we have, as it still magically overloads
other behavior.  I'd rather have an explicit operation to clear the
poison both at the syscall level (maybe another falloc mode), and the
internal kernel API level (new method in dax_operations).
I've long wondered why we can't just pass a write flag to the
direct_access functions so that pmem_dax_direct_access can clear the
poison.  Then we ought to be able to tell userspace that they can
recover from write errors by pwrite() or triggering a write fault on the
page, I think.  That's how userspace recovers from IO errors on
traditional disks; I've never understood why it has to be any different
now.
Also for the next iteration please split the iomap changes from the
usage in xfs.
ok.

--D
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