Thread (52 messages) 52 messages, 11 authors, 2010-10-19

Re: [RFC] ext4: Don't send extra barrier during fsync if there are no dirty pages.

From: Ric Wheeler <hidden>
Date: 2010-06-30 13:21:20
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On 06/30/2010 08:48 AM, tytso@mit.edu wrote:
On Tue, May 04, 2010 at 11:45:53AM -0400, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
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On Tue, May 04, 2010 at 10:16:37AM -0400, Ric Wheeler wrote:
quoted
Checking per inode is actually incorrect - we do not want to short cut
the need to flush the target storage device's write cache just because a
specific file has no dirty pages.  If a power hit occurs, having sent
the pages from to the storage device is not sufficient.
As long as we're only using the information for fsync doing it per inode
is the correct thing.  We only want to flush the cache if the inode
(data or metadata) is dirty in some way.  Note that this includes writes
via O_DIRECT which are quite different to track - I've not found the
original patch in my mbox so I can't comment if this is done right.
I agree.

I wonder if it's worthwhile to think about a new system call which
allows users to provide an array of fd's which are collectively should
be fsync'ed out at the same time.  Otherwise, we end up issuing
multiple barrier operations in cases where the application needs to
do:

	fsync(control_fd);
	fsync(data_fd);

						- Ted
The problem with not issuing a cache flush when you have dirty meta data or data 
is that it does not have any tie to the state of the volatile write cache of the 
target storage device.

We do need to have fsync() issue the cache flush command even when there is no 
dirty state for the inode in our local page cache in order to flush data that 
was pushed out/cleaned and not followed by a flush.

It would definitely be *very* useful to have an array of fd's that all need 
fsync()'ed at home time....

Ric
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