Thread (30 messages) 30 messages, 12 authors, 2008-03-07

Re: [RFC] ext3 freeze feature

From: Eric Sandeen <hidden>
Date: 2008-01-25 16:34:53
Also in: linux-fsdevel, lkml

Theodore Tso wrote:
The other approach would be to say, "oh well, the freeze ioctl is
inherently dangerous, and root is allowed to himself in the foot, so
who cares".  :-)
I tend to agree.  Either you need your fs frozen, or not, and if you do,
be prepared for the consequences.
But it was this concern which is why ext3 never exported freeze
functionality to userspace, even though other commercial filesystems
do support this.  It wasn't that it wasn't considered, but the concern
about whether or not it was sufficiently safe to make available.
What's the safety concern; that the admin will forget to unfreeze?
And I do agree that we probably should just implement this in
filesystem independent way, in which case all of the filesystems that
support this already have super_operations functions
write_super_lockfs() and unlockfs().
That's what I was thinking; can't the path to freeze_bdev just be
elevated out of dm-ioctl.c to fs/ioctl.c and exposed, such that any
filesystem which implements .write_super_lockfs can be frozen?  This is
essentially what the xfs_freeze userspace does via
xfs_ioctl/XFS_IOC_FREEZE - which, AFAIK, isn't used much now that the
lvm hooks are in place.

I'm also not sure I see the point of the timeout in the original patch;
either you are done snapshotting and ready to unfreeze, or you're not;
1, or 2, or 3 seconds doesn't really matter.  When you're done, you're
done, and you can only unfreeze then.  Shouldn't this be done
programmatically, and not with some pre-determined timeout?

-Eric
Keyboard shortcuts
hback out one level
jnext message in thread
kprevious message in thread
ldrill in
Escclose help / fold thread tree
?toggle this help