On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 10:06:51PM +0100, David Woodhouse wrote:

You effectively seem to be suggesting that nothing will ever get better
on the UEFI side, and the only benefit of the plugfest is that we get to
see the latest brokenness and try to come up with a workaround for it
before the consumers are afflicted with it?

Pretty much. There's a decent chance that board vendors already have the 
broken code before we end up testing against it.

That's a really pessimistic view, and I'd really like us to be a little
more optimistic. Things can't be, or at least can't *stay*, that bad.
Surely?

Most vendors don't care about testing against Linux, and we can't make 
them care. What they're more likely to test against is the SCT, and 
extending that to cover a wider range of test cases (such as exhausting 
variable space) is much more likely to result in things being caught 
before anything is shipped - but even then, board vendors are going to 
take IBV code, perform "value add", never run a test suite and just make 
sure it boots Windows.

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