Re: [PATCH] tracefs/eventfs: Use root and instance inodes as default ownership

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Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
Date
2024-01-04 21:28:51
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Linus Torvalds, 2024-01-04
On Thu, Jan 04, 2024 at 11:35:37AM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
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"file description" - is how the file is accessed (position in the file and
                        flags associated to how it was opened)
That's a horrible term that shouldn't be used at all. Apparently some
people use it for what is our 'struct file *", also known as a "file
table entry".  Avoid it.
Worse, really.  As far as I can reconstruct what happened it was something
along the lines of "colloquial expression is 'opened file', but that is
confusing - sounds like a property+noun, so it might be misparsed as
a member of subset of files satisfying the property of 'being opened';
can't have that in a standard, let's come up with something else".
Except that what they did come up with had been much worse, for obvious
linguistic reasons.

The *ONLY* uses for that expression I can think of are
	1.  When reading POSIX texts, watch out for that one - if you
see them talking about a file descriptor in context where it really
should be about an opened file, check the wording.  If it really says
"file descriptOR", it's probably a bug in standard or a codified
bullshit practice.  If it says "file descriptION" instead, replace with
"opened file" and move on.
	2.  An outstanding example of the taste of that bunch.

IO channel would be a saner variant, but it's far too late for that.

The 3-way distinction between descriptor/opened file/file as collection of data
needs to be explained in UNIX 101; it is userland-visible and it has to be
understood.  Unfortunately, it's often done in a way that leaves students
seriously confused ;-/
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