Thread (11 messages) 11 messages, 3 authors, 2021-09-06

Re: [PATCH v2] mm: Add configuration to control whether vmpressure notifier is enabled

From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
Date: 2021-08-20 15:42:13
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On Fri 20-08-21 23:20:40, yong w wrote:
Michal Hocko [off-list ref] 于2021年8月20日周五 下午7:26写道:
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On Thu 19-08-21 16:53:39, yongw.pur@gmail.com wrote:
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From: wangyong <redacted>

Inspired by PSI features, vmpressure inotifier function should
also be configured to decide whether it is used, because it is an
independent feature which notifies the user of memory pressure.
Yes, it is an independent feature indeed but what is the actual reason
to put a more configuration space here. Config options are not free both
from the user experience POV as well as the code maintenance. Why do we
need to disable this feature. Who can benefit from such a setup?
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So we add configuration to control whether vmpressure notifier is
enabled, and provide a boot parameter to use vmpressure notifier
flexibly.
Flexibility is nice but not free as mentioned above.
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Use Christoph Lamenter’s pagefault tool
(https://lkml.org/lkml/2006/8/29/294) for comparative testing.
Test with 5.14.0-rc5-next-20210813 on x86_64 4G Ram
To ensure that the vmpressure function is executed, we enable zram
and let the program occupy memory so that some memory is swapped out

unpatched:
Gb    Rep     Thr     CLine   User(s) System(s) Wall(s) flt/cpu/s     fault/wsec
2     1       1       1       0.1     0.97    1.13    485490.062      463533.34
2     1       1       1       0.11    0.96    1.12    483086.072      465309.495
2     1       1       1       0.1     0.95    1.11    496687.098      469887.643
2     1       1       1       0.09    0.97    1.11    489711.434      468402.102
2     1       1       1       0.13    0.94    1.12    484159.415      466080.941
average                               0.106   0.958   1.118   487826.8162     466642.7042

patched and CONFIG_MEMCG_VMPRESSURE is not set:
Gb    Rep     Thr     CLine   User(s) System(s) Wall(s) flt/cpu/s     fault/wsec
2     1       1       1       0.1     0.96    1.1     490942.682      473125.98
2     1       1       1       0.08    0.99    1.13    484987.521      463161.975
2     1       1       1       0.09    0.96    1.09    498824.98       476696.066
2     1       1       1       0.1     0.97    1.12    484127.673      465951.238
2     1       1       1       0.1     0.97    1.11    487032          468964.662
average                               0.094   0.97    1.11    489182.9712     469579.9842

According to flt/cpu/s, performance improved by 0.2% which is not obvious.
I haven't checked how are those numbers calculated but from a very brief
look it seems like the variation between different runs is higher than
0.2%. Have you checked the average against standard deviation to get a
better idea whether the difference is really outside of the noise?
--
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs
Thanks for your reply.
The reason for adding configuration is as follows:
All those reasons should be a part of the changelog.
1. Referring to [PATCH] psi: make disabling/enabling easier for vendor
kernels, the modification
is also applicable to vmpressure.

2. With the introduction of psi into the kernel, there are two memory
pressure monitoring methods,
it is not necessary to use both and it makes sense to make vmpressure
configurable.
I am not sure these are sufficient justifications but that is something
to discuss. And hence it should be a part of the changelog.
3. In the case where the user does not need vmpressure,  vmpressure
calculation is additional overhead.
You should quantify that and argue why that overhead cannot be further
reduced without config/boot time knobs.
In some special scenes with tight memory, vmpressure will be executed
frequently.we use "likely" and "inline"
to improve the performance of the kernel, why not reduce some
unnecessary calculations?
I am all for improving the code. Is it possible to do it by other means?
E.g. reduce a potential overhead when there no events registered?
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs
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