Am 12.01.21 um 00:42 schrieb Randy Dunlap:

On 1/11/21 10:55 AM, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:

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Am 11.01.21 um 19:14 schrieb Randy Dunlap:

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On 1/10/21 4:10 AM, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:

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Andrew Morton takes MM bugs and Cc:s them to linux-mm mailing list
and then asks for discussion to continue on the mailing list.

Then what use it bugzilla here? Wouldn't it be better for people to go
straight to the list?

Might as well, yes.

Yeah, and that's among the reasons why I wrote the new document on
reporting bugs/issues (which explains how to report issues by mail) and
additionally work (at least for now) towards discouraging people from
using bugzilla.kernel.org.

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Just trying to understand things better here, as there are other things
that look strange to me and were mentioned in the patch description. For
example: Why are there only 200 products and components on
bugzilla.kernel.org (some of them for historic things like the
ac-kernels) while the MAINTAINERS file has more than 2200 entries?

I wouldn't want a separate entry for each  SPI/GPIO/regulator/USB etc.
device. That's just IMO...

I can relate to that view, but OTOH that would means a middleperson is
needed to get in contact with the maintainer. Which is fine concept, as
that person could be a kind of 1st level support that shields higher
level people like developers and maintainers from bad bug reports.

But I guess that would be a boring job which I nobody will do over
longer periods of time just for fun. Sure, the LF or someone else could
hire someone (see the mail from Konstantin in this thread; will reply to
that later); but I wonder if we have more pressing issues where the
money would better be spend better. And even if not: getting that money
and hiring someone would take some time...

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could/should probably see if we can add more project-specific
mailing lists to the automatic reporting 

Guess that would mean taking to a lot of maintainers/mailing list admins
if they are okay with that. Who would do that?

whoever is motivated to do so.

Not me. ;-) That bugzilla.kernel.org is not working to well is known for
years now, without anyone stepping up to improve the situation for real.
Maybe my work/this discussion gets something rolling. But I guess until
I see that happen I continue working towards discouraging people from
using bugzilla.kernel.org, as otherwise things will just stay as they
are, which IMHO is a bad idea with the state of things.

Ciao, Thorsten