Thread (21 messages) 21 messages, 3 authors, 2018-06-26

Re: [PATCH v4 09/12] dt-bindings: PM / OPP: add opp-throttlers property

From: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>
Date: 2018-06-26 15:50:08
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On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 2:03 PM Matthias Kaehlcke [off-list ref] wrote:
On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 11:50:37AM -0700, Matthias Kaehlcke wrote:
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Hi Rob,

On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 09:33:41AM -0600, Rob Herring wrote:
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On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 06:52:34PM -0700, Matthias Kaehlcke wrote:
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The optional opp-throttlers property is used to configure the throttlers
(see drivers/misc/throttler/*) that use a given OPP to throttle the
corresponding device(s).

Signed-off-by: Matthias Kaehlcke <mka@chromium.org>
Reviewed-by: Brian Norris <briannorris@chromium.org>
---
Changes in v4:
- added 'Reviewed-by: Brian Norris [off-list ref]' tag

Changes in v3:
- none

Changes in v2:
- patch added to series
---
 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/opp/opp.txt | 3 +++
 1 file changed, 3 insertions(+)
diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/opp/opp.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/opp/opp.txt
index c396c4c0af92..747e79740c75 100644
--- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/opp/opp.txt
+++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/opp/opp.txt
@@ -170,6 +170,9 @@ Optional properties:
   functioning of the current device at the current OPP (where this property is
   present).

+- opp-throttlers: Array with phandles of throttlers that use this OPP to
+  throttle the corresponding device(s).
+
I think it would be better to make this a boolean for each OPP entry and
then add "operating-points-v2" property to the EC node to point to the
OPP table.
Thanks for your suggestion. "operating-points-v2" would have to be an
array of phandles, a single thottler can have multiple throttling
devices.
I don't see any issue with allowing that.
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Unless there is some need for a different throttler for each OPP entry?
Having the option to use different OPPs per throttler would be my
preference. E.g. there could be configurations where one throttler
only interacts with certain throttling devices and another one
with others.
Your terminology is confusing. By "throttling device", you mean an OPP
table (or OPP entry) which is not a device. OPPs are just a table of
state information.
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I see another option to achieve this, if you don't like the reference
to the throttlers in the OPPs. The throttler could have a list of OPPs
(as phandles, not frequencies as in v1). The main inconvenient I see
here is that the used OPPs would need a label, which they usually
don't have. Maybe this is no soooo bad, since the label could be added
at device level, only on devices that use a throttler, so it wouldn't
clutter the platform .dts files.

This could be a single array with all OPPs from different devices,
or multiple arrays, one for each throttling device:

throttler-opps-0 = <&cpu0_opp_03 &cpu0_opp_05>;
throttler-opps-1 = <&gpu_opp_02 &gpu_opp_04>;

My preference would be multiple arrays, because it's easier to read.
I take the preference back. The OPPs for each device (group) can be
clustered within the single array and if needed clarifying comments
can be added:

throttler-opps = <&cpu0_opp_03 &cpu0_opp_05  /* CPU0 */
                  &gpu_opp_02 &gpu_opp_04>;  /* GPU */

This is simpler algorithmically and there is no need for an additional
property indicating the number of OPP groups or probing.
I'm still trying to understand why you would have say throttler-A
wanting to set cpu freq to X and throttler-B wanting to set cpu freq
to Y. There's both the question of why/when would you have 2 or more
throttlers (in DT) and how would you resolve multiple requests.

The whole design of a throttler directly dealing with OPPs especially
for non-cpu devices seems like it is missing some level of
abstraction. What if you want to throttle by some means other than
frequency such as idling cores? I guess abstraction would make it hard
to make things optimal for every platform when in the end you just
want to set specific frequencies on a number of devices. It seems like
a similar situation as early big.LITTLE designs vs. EAS.

Rob
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