On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 04:02:13PM +0100, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:

If it was such a problem, then in the _eight_ days that this has been
discussed so far, _someone_ would have sent some data showing the
problem.  I think the fact is, there is no data.

Someone prove me wrong.  Someone post the verifiable data showing that
there is a problem to be solved here.

Someone show what the specific failure cases are that are hampering
vendors moving forwards.  Someone show the long boot times by way of
kernel message log.  Someone show some evidence of the problems that
have been alluded to.

If no one can show some evidence, there isn't a problem here. :)

Yeah, I'm not convinced the timing is *such* a big deal either - I do
think that the log spam is a real problem but I think something much
less invasive like the interface you proposed is good for addressing
that.