Thread (99 messages) 99 messages, 19 authors, 2022-01-11

Re: [PATCH v43 01/15] Linux Random Number Generator

From: Stephan Mueller <hidden>
Date: 2021-11-22 06:43:32
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Am Montag, 22. November 2021, 07:02:14 CET schrieb Greg Kroah-Hartman:

Hi Greg,
On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 06:34:43AM +0100, Stephan Mueller wrote:
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Am Sonntag, 21. November 2021, 23:42:33 CET schrieb Jason A. Donenfeld:

Hi Jason,
quoted
Hi Stephan,

You've posted it again, and yet I still believe this is not the
correct design or direction. I do not think the explicit goal of
extended configurability ("flexibility") or the explicit goal of being
FIPS compatible represent good directions, and I think this introduces
new problems rather than solving any existing ones.
The members from the Linux distributions that are on copy on this may tell
you a different story. They all developed their own downstream patches to
somehow add the flexibility that is needed for them. So, we have a great
deal of fragmentation at the resting-foundation of Linux cryptography.
What distros specifically have patches in their kernels that do
different things to the random code path?  Do you have pointers to those
patches anywhere?  Why have the distros not submitted their changes
upstream?
I will leave the representatives from the distros to chime in and point to 
these patches.

Yet, these changes are commonly a band-aid only that have some additional 
drawbacks. Bottom line, there is no appropriate way with the current code to 
allow vendors what they want to achieve. One hint to what changes vendors are 
attempting can be found in [1] slide 20.

[1] https://www.chronox.de/lrng/doc/lrng_presentation_v43.pdf
thanks,

greg k-h

Ciao
Stephan

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