Re: [PATCH, RFC] random: introduce getrandom(2) system call
From: George Spelvin <hidden>
Date: 2014-07-20 17:03:10
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In the end people would just recall getentropy in a loop and fetch 256 bytes each time. I don't think the artificial limit does make any sense. I agree that this allows a potential misuse of the interface, but doesn't a warning in dmesg suffice?
It makes their code not work, so they can are forced to think about fixing it before adding the obvious workaround.
It also makes it easier to port applications from open("/dev/*random"),
read(...) to getentropy() by reusing the same limits.But such an application *is broken*. Making it easier to port is an anti-goal. The goal is to make it enough of a hassle that people will *fix* their code. There's a *reason* that the /dev/random man page explicitly tells people not to trust software that reads more than 32 bytes at a time from /dev/random:
While some safety margin above that minimum is reasonable, as a guard against flaws in the CPRNG algorithm, no cryptographic primitive avail- able today can hope to promise more than 256 bits of security, so if any program reads more than 256 bits (32 bytes) from the kernel random pool per invocation, or per reasonable reseed interval (not less than one minute), that should be taken as a sign that its cryptography is *not* skillfully implemented.
("not skilfuly implemented" was the phrase chosen after some discussion to
convey "either a quick hack or something you dhouldn't trust.")
To expand on what I said in my mail to Ted, 256 is too high.
I'd go with OpenBSD's 128 bytes or even drop it to 64.