Thread (30 messages) 30 messages, 6 authors, 2018-10-19

Re: [PATCH 0/5] block: introduce helpers for allocating io buffer from slab

From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Date: 2018-10-18 23:07:33
Also in: linux-fsdevel

On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 04:05:51PM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 07:03:42AM -0700, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
quoted
Before we go down this road, could we have a discussion about what
hardware actually requires this?  Storage has this weird assumption that
I/Os must be at least 512 byte aligned in memory, and I don't know where
this idea comes from.  Network devices can do arbitrary byte alignment.
Even USB controllers can do arbitrary byte alignment.  Sure, performance
is going to suck and there are definite risks on some architectures
with doing IOs that are sub-cacheline aligned, but why is storage such a
special snowflake that we assume that host controllers are only capable
of doing 512-byte aligned DMAs?
Actually most storage controllers requires 4-byte alignment, but there is
a significant subset that requires 512-byte alignment.
Can you name one that does require 512-byte alignment, preferably still
in use?  Or even >4-byte alignment.  I just checked AHCI and that requires
only 2-byte alignment.

I have reason to believe that these are uncommon because of the feedback
we got in the NVMe committee after releasing 1.0 which required 4-byte
alignment from people whining that they just couldn't guarantee 4-byte
alignment in their host devices and they absolutely needed to have no
alignment requirements (!)
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