Thread (2 messages) 2 messages, 2 authors, 2016-08-01

Re: To add, or not to add, a bio REQ_ROTATIONAL flag

From: Martin K. Petersen <hidden>
Date: 2016-07-29 01:16:28
Also in: dm-devel, linux-bcache, linux-raid, lkml

quoted
quoted
quoted
quoted
"Eric" == Eric Wheeler [off-list ref] writes:
Eric,

Eric> However, just because FADV_SEQUENTIAL is flagged doesn't mean the
Eric> cache should bypass.  Filesystems can fragment, and while the file
Eric> being read may be read sequentially, the blocks on which it
Eric> resides may not be.  Same thing for higher-level block devices
Eric> such as dm-thinp where one might sequentially read a thin volume
Eric> but its _tdata might not be in linear order.  This may imply that
Eric> we need a new way to flag cache bypass from userspace that is
Eric> neither io-priority nor fadvise driven.

Why conflate the two? Something being a background task is orthogonal to
whether it is being read sequentially or not.

Eric> So what are our options?  What might be the best way to do this?

For the SCSI I/O hints I use the idle I/O priority to classify
backups. Works fine.

Eric> Are FADV_NOREUSE/FADV_DONTNEED reasonable candidates?

FADV_DONTNEED was intended for this. There have been patches posted in
the past that tied the loop between the fadvise flags and the bio. I
would like to see those revived.

Eric> Perhaps ionice could be used used, but the concept of "priority"
Eric> doesn't exactly encompass the concept of cache-bypass---so is
Eric> something else needed?

The idle class explicitly does not have a priority.

-- 
Martin K. Petersen	Oracle Linux Engineering
Keyboard shortcuts
hback out one level
jnext message in thread
kprevious message in thread
ldrill in
Escclose help / fold thread tree
?toggle this help