Thread (16 messages) 16 messages, 5 authors, 2024-09-02

RE: [PATCH V2] firmware: arm_scmi: bus: bypass set fwnode for scmi cpufreq

From: Peng Fan <peng.fan@nxp.com>
Date: 2024-09-02 12:22:30
Also in: arm-scmi, lkml

Hi Saravana,
Subject: RE: [PATCH V2] firmware: arm_scmi: bus: bypass set fwnode
for scmi cpufreq
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Subject: Re: [PATCH V2] firmware: arm_scmi: bus: bypass set fwnode
for
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scmi cpufreq

On Wed, Aug 14, 2024 at 12:04 AM Peng Fan [off-list ref]
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Subject: Re: [PATCH V2] firmware: arm_scmi: bus: bypass set
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for scmi cpufreq

On Tue, Aug 13, 2024 at 8:36 PM Peng Fan [off-list ref]
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Subject: RE: [PATCH V2] firmware: arm_scmi: bus: bypass set
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for scmi cpufreq
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Subject: Re: [PATCH V2] firmware: arm_scmi: bus: bypass set
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for
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scmi cpufreq

On Tue, Aug 13, 2024 at 01:52:30PM +0000, Peng Fan
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Subject: Re: [PATCH V2] firmware: arm_scmi: bus: bypass
set
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for scmi cpufreq

On Tue, Aug 13, 2024 at 10:25:31AM +0000, Peng Fan
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Subject: Re: [PATCH V2] firmware: arm_scmi: bus:
bypass set
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for scmi cpufreq

On Jul 29, 2024 at 15:03:25 +0800, Peng Fan (OSS)
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From: Peng Fan <peng.fan@nxp.com>

Two drivers scmi_cpufreq.c and
scmi_perf_domain.c
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both
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use
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SCMI_PROTCOL_PERF protocol, but with different
name,
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so
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two
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scmi
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devices will be created. But the fwnode->dev could
only point to one
device.
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If scmi cpufreq device created earlier, the
fwnode->dev will point to the scmi cpufreq device.
Then the fw_devlink will link performance domain
user
device(consumer) to the scmi cpufreq
device(supplier).
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But actually the performance domain user device,
such
as
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GPU,
should
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use the scmi perf device as supplier. Also if
'cpufreq.off=1'
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in bootargs, the GPU driver will defer probe
always, because of the scmi cpufreq
The commit message itself seems very specific to
some
platform
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to
me.
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What about platforms that don't atall have a GPU?
Why
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would
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they
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care about this?
It is a generic issue if a platform has performance
domain to serve scmi cpufreq and device performance
level.
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device not ready.

Because for cpufreq, no need use fw_devlink. So
bypass
setting
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fwnode
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for scmi cpufreq device.

Fixes: 96da4a99ce50 ("firmware: arm_scmi: Set
fwnode
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scmi_device")
Signed-off-by: Peng Fan <peng.fan@nxp.com>
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V2:
 Use A!=B to replace !(A == B)  Add fixes tag
This might be a workaround, but since this is a
fix, it is simple for backporting.
More than a workaround, it feels like a HACK to me.
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V1:



 drivers/firmware/arm_scmi/bus.c | 3 ++-
 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
diff --git a/drivers/firmware/arm_scmi/bus.c
b/drivers/firmware/arm_scmi/bus.c index
96b2e5f9a8ef..be91a82e0cda
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--- a/drivers/firmware/arm_scmi/bus.c
+++ b/drivers/firmware/arm_scmi/bus.c
@@ -395,7 +395,8 @@
__scmi_device_create(struct
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device_node
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*np, struct device *parent,
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  scmi_dev->id = id;
  scmi_dev->protocol_id = protocol;
  scmi_dev->dev.parent = parent;
- device_set_node(&scmi_dev->dev,
of_fwnode_handle(np));
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+ if ((protocol != SCMI_PROTOCOL_PERF) ||
strcmp(name,
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"cpufreq"))
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+         device_set_node(&scmi_dev->dev,
of_fwnode_handle(np));

I kind of disagree with the idea here to be specific
about the PROTOCOL_PERF or cpufreq. This is a
generic arm scmi bus
driver
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right?
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Why bring in specific code into a bus driver? We
will never fix the actual root cause of the issue this
way.
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The root cause is fwnode devlink only supports one
fwnode, one
device.
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1:1 match. But current arm scmi driver use one fwnode
for two
devices.
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If your platform has scmi cpufreq and scmi device
performance
domain,
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you might see that some devices are consumer of scmi
cpufreq,
but
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actually they should be consumer of scmi device
performance
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domain.
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I not have a good idea that this is fw devlink design
that only allows
1 fwnode has 1 device or not. If yes, that arm scmi
should be
fixed.
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If not, fw devlink should be updated.

The current patch is the simplest method for stable
tree fixes as I could work out.
So this is the same root cause at the end of the issues
you had with IMX pinctrl coexistence...i.e. the SCMI
stack creates scmi devices that embeds the protocol
node, BUT since you
can
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have multiple device/drivers doing different things on
different resources within the same protocol you can end
with
2 devices having the same embedded device_node, since
we
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dont
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really
have
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anything else to
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as device_node, I rigth ?
I think, yes. And you remind me that with PINCTRL_SCMI
and
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CONFIG_PINCTRL_IMX_SCMI both enabled, the scmi
pinctrl
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node
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will
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only
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take one to set the fwnode device pointer depends on the
order to
run
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__scmi_device_create.

So not only perf, pinctrl also has issue here, fwnode
devlink will not work properly for pinctrl/perf.
...mmm ... the standard generic Pinctrl driver and the IMX
Pintrcl are mutually exclusive in the code (@probe time)
itself as far as I can remember about what you did, so why
devlink should have
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issue there ?
Have you seen any issue in this regards while having loaded
pinctrl_scmi and pinctrl_imx_scmi ?
No. it works well in my setup. I am just worried that there
might be issues because fwnode only has one dev pointer, see
device_add.
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I want to have a better look next days about this devlink
issue that you reported...it still not clear to me...from
device_link_add() docs, it seems indeed that it will return
the old existing link if a link exist already between that
same supplier/consumer devices
pair....but
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from the code (at first sight) it seems that the check is
made agains the devices not their embeded device_nodes,
but
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here
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in pinctrl/imx case) you will have 2 distinct consumer
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device_node)...I may have missed something in your
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It might be false alarm for pinctrl, but it is true issue for perf.
Just give a recheck. Pinctrl has same issue. With PINCTRL_SCMI
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PINCTRL_IMX_SCMI both enabled, two scmi devices will be
created.
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depends on device creation order, 1st created device will be
used as supplier.

On i.MX, there is no issue with both enabled, it is because the
imx scmi device is created first. If the generic pinctrl scmi
device created first, imx will have issue.

In the end, this is generic fw_devlink limitation or arm scmi
driver issue.
+1 to what Cristian and Dhruva said in other parts of this thread.

This patch itself is definitely a hack.

The problem isn't so much that fw_devlink doesn't want to
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multiple devices getting instantiated from one DT node. The
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is that there's no way to know which of the multiple devices is
the real supplier just by looking at the information in
devicetree/firmware (the fw in fw_devlink).
Yes. I see.

And keep in mind that one of the main requirements
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of fw_devlink is to work before any driver is loaded and not
depend on drivers for correctness of the dependency information
because it needs to work on a fully modular kernel too. So,
fw_devlink just picks the first device that's instantiated from a DT
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I really hate folks creating multiple devices from one DT node.
One IP block can support multiple things, there's no need to
instantiate multiple devices for it. The same driver could have
just as easily registered with multiple frameworks. So, ideally
I'd want us to fix this issue in the SCMI framework code. In the
case where the same SCMI node is creating two devices, can they
both probe successfully?
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In pinctrl case, only one could probe successfully.
See
drivers/pinctrl/pinctrl-scmi.c for generic pinctrl scmi driver
drivers/pinctrl/freescale/pinctrl-imx-scmi.c for i.MX extension.

There is a machine compatible string to make sure only one could
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successfully.
Why?! Isn't this the whole point of compatible strings and being able
to list multiple compatible strings for a DT node?
The scmi devices are actually not populated from DT node, they are
create from driver according to a table if the reg(protocol_id) exists in
DT, see drivers/firmware/arm_scmi/bus.c "
                sdev = __scmi_device_create(np, parent,
                                            rdev->id_table->protocol_id,
                                            rdev->id_table->name); "

For compatible strings, I could not comment on the design. Cristian
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In scmi performance case, both could probe successfully.
drivers/cpufreq/scmi-cpufreq.c
drivers/pmdomain/arm/scmi_perf_domain.c

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why are we not using a child node or a separate node for this
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device? If it's always one or the other, why are we creating two
devices?
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Sudeep and Cristian may comment on the design goal of scmi
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Can you please point to specific upstream DT examples for me to
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a better handle on what's going on?
See linux-next tree:
arch/arm64/boot/dts/freescale/imx95.dtsi

                        scmi_perf: protocol@13 {
                                reg = <0x13>;
                                #power-domain-cells = <1>;
                        };

                        scmi_iomuxc: protocol@19 {
                                reg = <0x19>;
                        };
Sure, I can see that file and these nodes, but what am I supposed to
make of it? Can you be more specific please?
Sorry for not being clear.

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protocol number mapping.
The ID is in include/linux/scmi_protocol.h, line 918.

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example?
For " protocol@13", it is A55 cpu core with " power-domains =
<&scmi_perf IMX95_PERF_A55>;" and other devices(GPU/VPU) that
not in upstream tree as of now.

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Yes, both.
drivers/firmware/arm_scmi/bus.c
__scmi_device_create will create device according to "static const
struct scmi_device_id scmi_id_table", so for protocol@19, It will create
two devices, one is "{ SCMI_PROTOCOL_PINCTRL, "pinctrl" }", The other
is " { SCMI_PROTOCOL_PINCTRL, "pinctrl-imx" }, ", both points to the
node protocol@19, see "device_set_node(&scmi_dev->dev,
of_fwnode_handle(np)); " in "__scmi_device_create".
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Can you also point me to specific examples for the pinctrl thing you
mention above?
As above, two devices are created, both points to node protocol@19,
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I'll take a closer look tomorrow.
Do you have a chance to look into the scmi stuff?

Thanks,
Peng.
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Peng.
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-Saravana
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Btw, there is the deferred_probe_timeout command line option
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can be used so that fw_devlink stops enforcing dependencies
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there are no supplier drivers for a device after a timeout. It's not
ideal, but it's something to unblock you.

The best fw_devlink could do is just not enforce any dependencies
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there is more than one device instantiated for a given supplier DT
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You mean not enforce fw_devlink for all or this could only apply to
specific nodes or devices?

Thanks,
Peng.
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-Saravana
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