On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 1:59 AM 'Michal Hocko' via kernel-team
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On Fri 20-01-23 08:20:43, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:

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On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 12:52 AM Michal Hocko [off-list ref] wrote:

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On Thu 19-01-23 10:52:03, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:

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On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 4:59 AM Michal Hocko [off-list ref] wrote:

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On Mon 09-01-23 12:53:34, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:

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call_rcu() can take a long time when callback offloading is enabled.
Its use in the vm_area_free can cause regressions in the exit path when
multiple VMAs are being freed. To minimize that impact, place VMAs into
a list and free them in groups using one call_rcu() call per group.

After some more clarification I can understand how call_rcu might not be
super happy about thousands of callbacks to be invoked and I do agree
that this is not really optimal.

On the other hand I do not like this solution much either.
VM_AREA_FREE_LIST_MAX is arbitrary and it won't really help all that
much with processes with a huge number of vmas either. It would still be
in housands of callbacks to be scheduled without a good reason.

Instead, are there any other cases than remove_vma that need this
batching? We could easily just link all the vmas into linked list and
use a single call_rcu instead, no? This would both simplify the
implementation, remove the scaling issue as well and we do not have to
argue whether VM_AREA_FREE_LIST_MAX should be epsilon or epsilon + 1.

Yes, I agree the solution is not stellar. I wanted something simple
but this is probably too simple. OTOH keeping all dead vm_area_structs
on the list without hooking up a shrinker (additional complexity) does
not sound too appealing either.

I suspect you have missed my idea. I do not really want to keep the list
around or any shrinker. It is dead simple. Collect all vmas in
remove_vma and then call_rcu the whole list at once after the whole list
(be it from exit_mmap or remove_mt). See?

Yes, I understood your idea but keeping dead objects until the process
exits even when the system is low on memory (no shrinkers attached)
seems too wasteful. If we do this I would advocate for attaching a
shrinker.

I am still not sure we are on the same page here. No, vmas shouldn't lay
around un ntil the process exit. I am really suggesting queuing only for
remove_vma paths. You can have a different rcu callback than the one
used for trivial single vma removal paths.

Oh, I also missed the remove_mt() part and thought you want to drain
the list only in exit_mmap(). I think that's a good option!

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Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

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