On Mon, Jul 26, 2021 at 12:18 PM [off-list ref] wrote:

On 23.07.2021 12:13, Uwe Kleine-König wrote:

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From:
Uwe Kleine-König [off-list ref]
Date:
23.07.2021, 12:13
On Wed, Jun 09, 2021 at 10:21:23PM +0200, Uwe Kleine-König wrote:

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given that I don't succeed in getting any feedback for my patch set, I'm
trying with a pull request today.

This is for a series that is currently in v7 and didn't get any feedback
at all yet. The history is:

v1: 2020-10-13, https://lore.kernel.org/linux-clk/20201013082132.661993-1-u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de (local)
    no feedback at all

v2: 2021-03-01, https://lore.kernel.org/linux-clk/20210301110821.1445756-1-uwe@kleine-koenig.org (local)
    kernel test robot identified some issues

v3: 2021-03-01, https://lore.kernel.org/linux-clk/20210301135053.1462168-1-u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de (local)
    I added a few driver patches to show the benefit. (However in a way
    that the autobuilders don't understand, so there were some false
    positive build failure reports.)

v4: 2021-03-30, https://lore.kernel.org/linux-clk/20210330181755.204339-1-u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de (local)
    Got some feedback for the converted drivers by the respective
    maintainers. Some were indifferent, some found it good

v5: 2021-04-22, https://lore.kernel.org/linux-clk/20210422065726.1646742-1-u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de (local)
    Fixed a problem in one of the driver changes (i2c-imx), no feedback
    apart from pointing out a few typos, silence from the clk
    maintainers

v6: 2021-04-26, https://lore.kernel.org/linux-clk/20210426141730.2826832-1-u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de (local)
    Just the typos fixed, no feedback

v6 resend: 2021-05-10, https://lore.kernel.org/linux-clk/20210510061724.940447-1-u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de (local)
    no changes in code. Got some feedback from Jonathan Cameron

v7: 2021-05-10, https://lore.kernel.org/linux-clk/20210510174142.986250-1-u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de (local)
    Adress Jonathan's feedback, recieved some more acks from non-clk
    people

pull request: 2021-07-09, https://lore.kernel.org/linux-clk/20210609202123.u5rmw7al4x3rrvun@pengutronix.de (local)

On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 11:26:58AM +0300, Andy Shevchenko wrote:

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On Thursday, July 22, 2021, Wolfram Sang [off-list ref] wrote:

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What about adding gkh to the list explaining the situation to him?

Greg doesn't like devm_ stuff.

I already asked Arnd who doesn't want to interfere and akpm who didn't
react either up to now.

Wow, okay, that is frustrating.

The situation simply shows the process gap and One Maintainer nowadays is
far from enough to satisfy demands.

Technically there are two maintainers for drivers/clk, Michael Turquette
and Stephen Boyd. It seems Michael is MIA and Stephen doesn't have the
capacity to address all requests.

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What I think about is that we need to escalate this to Linus and
others and elaborate the mechanisms how to squeeze a new (additional)
maintainer when the original one is not responsive. Let’s say some
procedural steps. Otherwise we doomed because of human factor.

Assuming there was some process for this, is there someone who is
willing to take responsibility here?

Hi,

In the last year I worked on AT91 clock drivers and I would be available
for taking responsibility beyond AT91 clocks (if everyone's OK with this),
in whatever form the current maintainers and people in the audience would
agree, if any (co-maintainer or other forms that could be useful). The idea
is to help things progress as I also have patches waiting for feedback on
clock mailing list for almost 6 months.

Let me know if I can be helpful.

I think so. Many subsystems relatively recently (in the last couple of
years or so) enforced that new drivers have to have official
maintainers. Besides that it's warmly welcome to register existing
drivers in the MAINTAINERS database. I would tell you go ahead and
become a maintainer of AT91 clocks and it will definitely reduce the
burden on Stephan's shoulders.

The idea is that you will send a PR to CCF maintainers instead of
patches, although it's expected that patches appear in the mailing
list beforehand anyway.

-- 
With Best Regards,
Andy Shevchenko

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