Thread (1 message) 1 message, 1 author, 2021-01-18

Re: [PATCH] coresight: etm4x: Add config to exclude kernel mode tracing

From: Mattias Nissler <hidden>
Date: 2021-01-18 14:50:02
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On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 6:46 AM Sai Prakash Ranjan
[off-list ref] wrote:
Hello Mathieu, Suzuki

On 2020-10-15 21:32, Mathieu Poirier wrote:
quoted
On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 06:15:22PM +0530, Sai Prakash Ranjan wrote:
quoted
On production systems with ETMs enabled, it is preferred to
exclude kernel mode(NS EL1) tracing for security concerns and
support only userspace(NS EL0) tracing. So provide an option
via kconfig to exclude kernel mode tracing if it is required.
This config is disabled by default and would not affect the
current configuration which has both kernel and userspace
tracing enabled by default.
One requires root access (or be part of a special trace group) to be
able to use
the cs_etm PMU.  With this kind of elevated access restricting tracing
at EL1
provides little in terms of security.
Apart from the VM usecase discussed, I am told there are other
security concerns here regarding need to exclude kernel mode tracing
even for the privileged users/root. One such case being the ability
to analyze cryptographic code execution since ETMs can record all
branch instructions including timestamps in the kernel and there may
be other cases as well which I may not be aware of and hence have
added Denis and Mattias. Please let us know if you have any questions
further regarding this not being a security concern.
Well, the idea that root privileges != full control over the kernel
isn't new and at the very least since lockdown became part of mainline
[1] no longer an esoteric edge case. Regarding the use case Sai hints
at (namely protection of secrets in the kernel), Matthew Garret
actually has some more thoughts about confidentiality mode for
lockdown for secret protection [2]. And thus, unless someone can make
a compelling case that instruction-level tracing will not leak secrets
held by the kernel, I think an option for the kernel to prevent itself
from being traced (even by root) is valuable.

Finally, to sketch a practical use case scenario: Consider a system
where disk contents are encrypted and the encryption key is set up by
the user when mounting the file system. From that point on the
encryption key resides in the kernel. It seems reasonable to expect
that the disk encryption key be protected from exfiltration even if
the system later suffers a root compromise (or even against insiders
that have root access), at least as long as the attacker doesn't
manage to compromise the kernel.

[1] https://lwn.net/Articles/796866/
[2] https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/55105.html
After this discussion, I would like to post a v2 based on Suzuki's
feedback earlier. @Suzuki, I have a common config for ETM3 and ETM4
but couldn't get much idea on how to implement it for Intel PTs, if
you have any suggestions there, please do share or we can have this
only for Coresight ETMs.

Thanks,
Sai

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