Thread (13 messages) 13 messages, 7 authors, 2020-10-26

Re: BTI interaction between seccomp filters in systemd and glibc mprotect calls, causing service failures

From: Kees Cook <hidden>
Date: 2020-10-22 20:02:24
Also in: linux-hardening, lkml

On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 01:39:07PM +0300, Topi Miettinen wrote:
But I think SELinux has a more complete solution (execmem) which can track
the pages better than is possible with seccomp solution which has a very
narrow field of view. Maybe this facility could be made available to
non-SELinux systems, for example with prctl()? Then the in-kernel MDWX could
allow mprotect(PROT_EXEC | PROT_BTI) in case the backing file hasn't been
modified, the source filesystem isn't writable for the calling process and
the file descriptor isn't created with memfd_create().
Right. The problem here is that systemd is attempting to mediate a
state change using only syscall details (i.e. with seccomp) instead of
a stateful analysis. Using a MAC is likely the only sane way to do that.
SELinux is a bit difficult to adjust "on the fly" the way systemd would
like to do things, and the more dynamic approach seen with SARA[1] isn't
yet in the kernel. Trying to enforce memory W^X protection correctly
via seccomp isn't really going to work well, as far as I can see.

Regardless, it makes sense to me to have the kernel load the executable
itself with BTI enabled by default. I prefer gaining Catalin's suggested
patch[2]. :)

[1] https://lore.kernel.org/kernel-hardening/1562410493-8661-1-git-send-email-s.mesoraca16@gmail.com/ (local)
[2] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-arm-kernel/20201022093104.GB1229@gaia/ (local)

-- 
Kees Cook

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