Thread (9 messages) 9 messages, 5 authors, 2020-10-23

Re: [systemd-devel] BTI interaction between seccomp filters in systemd and glibc mprotect calls, causing service failures

From: Florian Weimer <hidden>
Date: 2020-10-22 07:55:08
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* Lennart Poettering:
On Mi, 21.10.20 22:44, Jeremy Linton (jeremy.linton@arm.com) wrote:
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Hi,

There is a problem with glibc+systemd on BTI enabled systems. Systemd
has a service flag "MemoryDenyWriteExecute" which uses seccomp to deny
PROT_EXEC changes. Glibc enables BTI only on segments which are marked as
being BTI compatible by calling mprotect PROT_EXEC|PROT_BTI. That call is
caught by the seccomp filter, resulting in service failures.

So, at the moment one has to pick either denying PROT_EXEC changes, or BTI.
This is obviously not desirable.

Various changes have been suggested, replacing the mprotect with mmap calls
having PROT_BTI set on the original mapping, re-mmapping the segments,
implying PROT_EXEC on mprotect PROT_BTI calls when VM_EXEC is already set,
and various modification to seccomp to allow particular mprotect cases to
bypass the filters. In each case there seems to be an undesirable attribute
to the solution.

So, whats the best solution?
Did you see Topi's comments on the systemd issue?

https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/17368#issuecomment-710485532

I think I agree with this: it's a bit weird to alter the bits after
the fact. Can't glibc set up everything right from the begining? That
would keep both concepts working.
The dynamic loader has to process the LOAD segments to get to the ELF
note that says to enable BTI.  Maybe we could do a first pass and load
only the segments that cover notes.  But that requires lots of changes
to generic code in the loader.

Thanks,
Florian
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