Re: [EXT] Re: [PATCH v4 03/13] task_isolation: userspace hard isolation from kernel
From: Nitesh Narayan Lal <hidden>
Date: 2020-10-05 18:53:10
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On 10/4/20 7:14 PM, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
On Sun, Oct 04, 2020 at 02:44:39PM +0000, Alex Belits wrote:quoted
On Thu, 2020-10-01 at 15:56 +0200, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:quoted
External Email ------------------------------------------------------------------- --- On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 02:49:49PM +0000, Alex Belits wrote:quoted
+/* + * Description of the last two tasks that ran isolated on a given CPU. + * This is intended only for messages about isolation breaking. We + * don't want any references to actual task while accessing this from + * CPU that caused isolation breaking -- we know nothing about timing + * and don't want to use locking or RCU. + */ +struct isol_task_desc { + atomic_t curr_index; + atomic_t curr_index_wr; + bool warned[2]; + pid_t pid[2]; + pid_t tgid[2]; + char comm[2][TASK_COMM_LEN]; +}; +static DEFINE_PER_CPU(struct isol_task_desc, isol_task_descs);So that's quite a huge patch that would have needed to be split up. Especially this tracing engine. Speaking of which, I agree with Thomas that it's unnecessary. It's too much code and complexity. We can use the existing trace events and perform the analysis from userspace to find the source of the disturbance.The idea behind this is that isolation breaking events are supposed to be known to the applications while applications run normally, and they should not require any analysis or human intervention to be handled.Sure but you can use trace events for that. Just trace interrupts, workqueues, timers, syscalls, exceptions and scheduler events and you get all the local disturbance. You might want to tune a few filters but that's pretty much it. As for the source of the disturbances, if you really need that information, you can trace the workqueue and timer queue events and just filter those that target your isolated CPUs.
I agree that we can do all those things with tracing. However, IMHO having a simplified logging mechanism to gather the source of violation may help in reducing the manual effort. Although, I am not sure how easy will it be to maintain such an interface over time. -- Thanks Nitesh