On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 08:10:20PM +0100, Uwe Kleine-K?nig wrote:

On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 08:44:41AM -0700, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:

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On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 07:43:25AM -0700, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:

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On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 02:41:53PM +0100, Linus Walleij wrote:

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On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 1:34 PM, Uwe Kleine-K?nig
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Maybe we can make gpiod_get_optional look like this:

        if (!dev->of_node && isnt_a_acpi_device(dev) && !IS_ENABLED(GPIOLIB))
                return NULL;
        else
                return -ENOSYS;

I don't know how isnt_a_acpi_device looks like, probably it involves
CONFIG_ACPI and/or dev->acpi_node.

This should be safe and still comfortable for legacy platforms, isn't it?

I like the looks of this.

Can we revert Dmitry's patch and apply something like this instead?

Dmitry, how do you feel about this?

I frankly do not see the point. It still makes driver code more complex

Note that this code is in the gpio header, and not in driver code. So
the driver just does

	gpiod = gpiod_get_optional(...)
	if (IS_ERR(gpiod))
		return PTR_ERR(gpiod);

(as it is supposed to do now). I think that's nice.

Except that it breaks if !CONFIG_GPIOLIB which is legitimate config in
many cases. Can I have a DT platform or ACPI platform that does not
expose any GPIOs for kernel to control and thus want to disable GPIOLIB?
I can't see why not.

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for no good reason. I also think that not having optional GPIO is not an
error, so returning value from error space is not correct. NULL is value
from another space altogether.

It seems you didn't understand my concern.

Likewise.

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Uwe seems to be concerned about case that I find extremely unlikely. We
are talking about a system that does not have GPIO support and behaves
just fine, with the exception that it actually has (physically) a
*single* GPIO, and that GPIO happens to be optional in a single driver,
but in this particular system is actually needed (but that need
manifests in a non-obvious way). And we have system integrator that has
no idea what they are doing (no schematic, etc).

IMHO this is not an excuse to have lax error checking.

IMO it is not an error altogether, so there is no lax checking.

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I think that if there is one optional GPIO there will be mandatiry GPIOs
in such system as well and selection of GPIOLIB will be forced early on
in board bringup.

One more thing: if we keep reporting -ENOSYS in case of !CONFIG_GPIOLIB,
then most of the non platform-sepcific drivers will eventually gain code
silently coping with this -ENOSYS:

	data->gpiod = gpiod_getptional(...);
	if (IS_ERR(data->gpiod)) {
		error = PTR_ERR(data->gpiod);
		if (error != -ENOSYS)
			return error;

		data->gpiod = NULL; /* This GPIO _is_ optional */

Do you agree that this is wrong? Yes, it behaves right for most cases.
But there are cases where it behaves wrong and so it needs fixing.

I think by now it should be obvious that I do not find it wrong. In fact
that is what I, as a maintainer of drivers that supposed to work on
multitude of platforms, will be forced to do, if the change to stop
reporting -ENOSYS gets reverted. A generic driver has no way to know
that kernel configuration or firmware configuration is wrong and should
not be trusted (except for piling up horrendous DMI hacks in some
cases on X86).

Thanks.

-- 
Dmitry