Rob,

On Friday 22 July 2016 02:44 AM, Rob Herring wrote:

On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 11:52:36AM +0530, Sekhar Nori wrote:

quoted

Nishanth,

On Wednesday 20 July 2016 09:03 PM, Nishanth Menon wrote:

quoted

On 07/20/2016 09:56 AM, Mugunthan V N wrote:

quoted

Add documention of ti,impedance-control which can be used to
correct MAC impedance mismatch using phy extended registers.

Signed-off-by: Mugunthan V N <redacted>
---
  Documentation/devicetree/bindings/net/ti,dp83867.txt | 7 +++++++
  1 file changed, 7 insertions(+)

diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/net/ti,dp83867.txt

b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/net/ti,dp83867.txt
index 5d21141..531ea3c5 100644

--- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/net/ti,dp83867.txt
+++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/net/ti,dp83867.txt

@@ -9,6 +9,13 @@ Required properties:
      - ti,fifo-depth - Transmitt FIFO depth- see

dt-bindings/net/ti-dp83867.h
          for applicable values

+Optional property:
+    - ti,impedance-control - MAC Interface Impedance control to vary the
+                 output impedance with an approximate range
+                 from 35-70 ohms in 32 steps. Value range can
+                 be 0x0 to 0x1f. Lowest impedance value is
+                 0x1f and highest impedance being 0x0.
+

Should'nt you be using the impedance values of 35 to 70 as the valid
values here? that would be the hardware description, and the values to
program corresponding to those are 0x00 to 0x1f. Right?

Rob: is'nt that the right way to do it?

Normally, yes that is preferred. I don't have an issue with it here if 
that is what makes sense.

quoted

Agree that that is usually the right way to do it. I believe this case
is bit peculiar though. Here is the extract from the datasheet[1] about
how the register in question works.

"
Output impedance approximate range from 35-70 ohms in 32 steps.
Lowest being 11110 and highest being 00000. Range and Step size
will vary with process.

Default is set to 50 ohms by trim. But the default register value can
vary by process. Non default values of MAC I/O impedance can be
used based on trace impedance. Mismatch between device and
trace impedance can cause voltage overshoot and undershoot.
"

So clearly, there is no easy correspondence that the hardware guarantees
between output impedance ohmage and the register value programmed. Only
couple of things are guaranteed.

1) Programming a value of 0 gives approximately 35 ohms
2) Programming a value of 0x1F gives approximately 70 ohms
3) Default value of the register gives 50 ohms (the default value could
vary by device).
4) Programming a value in between will give some ohmage in the
approximate range 35-70 (curve is unknown).

Sekhar got it wrong, programming 0x1F provides the minimum impedance of
35 ohms and 0x0 provides the maximum impedance of 70 ohms.

quoted

Given this, I am not sure how one can convert a given user supplied ohms
values to a reasonable register value. Clearly, the register is supposed
to be programmed by experimentation, not calculation.

So your are going to change from a known value tuned for the individual 
Si (50ohm) to the same value for all chips (at least for a given board). 
Or does this get set by firmware at boot? If not, seems like you would 
want to specify a delta from the default register value in this case.

The delta will not be constant for each steps of the register content.
So this approach cannot be taken.

quoted

That said, we could take another approach. At least for the current
issue we are trying to address, we only need to configure the register
to max value. And given the nature of the register, I am pretty sure
that is what most people will end up doing.

How does the max value get determined? Possibly it should just be set in 
the kernel.

Yes, the min/max value will be determined in the kernel and the DT will
have either of the properties below.

quoted

So, may be we have two properties:

ti,max-output-impedance
ti,min-output-imepdance

Just define max if that's all you currently need.

Currently we care about only the min-output-impedance (register content
0x1f). Will respin the patch using ti,min-output-impedance.

Regards
Mugunthan V N