Thread (31 messages) 31 messages, 9 authors, 2016-06-16

[PATCH 3/5] arm64: dts: msm8916: Add spc compat tag

From: Lorenzo Pieralisi <hidden>
Date: 2016-06-13 13:48:33
Also in: linux-arm-msm, linux-pm

On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 12:00:43PM +0100, Mark Rutland wrote:
On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 11:47:21AM -0500, Andy Gross wrote:
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On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 05:25:55PM +0100, Mark Rutland wrote:
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On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 11:12:34AM -0500, Andy Gross wrote:
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On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 04:48:57PM +0100, Mark Rutland wrote:
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[+ Lorenzo]

On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 12:00:18AM -0500, Andy Gross wrote:
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This patch adds the qcom,idle-state-spc compatible to the SPC idle
state.  This compatible indicates that the state is one which supports
freeze.

Signed-off-by: Andy Gross <redacted>
---
 arch/arm64/boot/dts/qcom/msm8916.dtsi | 2 +-
 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
diff --git a/arch/arm64/boot/dts/qcom/msm8916.dtsi b/arch/arm64/boot/dts/qcom/msm8916.dtsi
index 208af00..032e411 100644
--- a/arch/arm64/boot/dts/qcom/msm8916.dtsi
+++ b/arch/arm64/boot/dts/qcom/msm8916.dtsi
@@ -104,7 +104,7 @@
 
 		idle-states {
 			CPU_SPC: spc {
-				compatible = "arm,idle-state";
+				compatible = "qcom,idle-state-spc", "arm,idle-state";
 				arm,psci-suspend-param = <0x40000002>;
 				entry-latency-us = <130>;
 				exit-latency-us = <150>;
This looks suspicious.

This is a PSCI idle state, and we have a PSCI driver driven by the
generic ARM cpuidle driver.

Why do we need a qcom-specific compatible here?

Surely we should be able to use the idle code in a generic fashion to
driver suspend-to-idle?
We need a way to identify specific idle states that support suspend-to-idle.  In
addition, when we have identified the states, we may have to configure the
enter_freeze() function.
Could you elaborate on what you mean by a state supporting
suspend-to-idle? It was my understanding that any idle state should
function for suspend-to-idle (and the choice of state is potentially
subjective).
when you freeze the system, cpuidle will try to find the deepest state which
supports freeze (by checking if a enter_freeze() exists).  If it does exist,
then the tick is frozen and the enter_freeze is called as each cpu goes idle.
Per Lorenzo's replies in another thread, it sounds like this is a
generic issue, and not specific to Qualcomm. My understanding is that
the only issue is coupled idle states, and further, that issue is really
an implementation detail within Linux w.r.t. IRQ management.

So it sounds like we need to rework things to be robust in the case of
coupled idle states, and we can wire up enter_freeze for all states
generically.

If there is some peroblem with making things robust, I assume we can
identify coupled idle states today in some generic manner. I don't
currently see the need for any DT binding.

Lorenzo, does the above make sense to you?
It does but I have a concern, let me summarize the problem here.

An idle state is freezeable if it can be entered with a function
that does not enable IRQs and that's a kernel implementation
detail; that function is used to initialize its enter_freeze()
hook.

That's the case for all ARM platforms I am aware of, apart
from the ones relying on coupled C-states that (by construction,
in core CPUidle code) rely on IRQ enabling in their enter
function body to work (NB: I do not handle coupled idle states
in generic ARM CPUidle code, and I will never do so that's a
non-existing problem).

The point is: while initializing the idle states in:

drivers/cpuidle/dt_idle_states.c (init_state_node())

we do not have all necessary information to know if we can
safely initialize the enter_freeze() hook (because
that's a property that depends on the CPUidle back-end).

We could add a DT property to report an idle state as
"freezeable", but that's ugly and ill-defined, it is a kernel
implementation detail, not sure a DT property makes sense
here.

So, either:

(1) We consider all idle states to be "freezeable" and so
    I initialize their enter_freeze() pointer == enter()
    (and assume the idle back-end does NOT enable IRQs, I
    could add some documentation for that)

(2) I have to add code that probes the idle back-end (ie
    the arm_cpuidle_suspend() implementation) to detect
    which states require IRQs to be enabled.

(2) is ugly/convoluted (and solving a problem that does not exist
at present). I am quite tempted to go for (1) and if we ever
have some issues with that we blacklist the respective platforms
enable-methods in the DT idle parsing code.

Thoughts appreciated.

Lorenzo
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