Thread (15 messages) 15 messages, 4 authors, 2014-09-23

[PATCH 3/4] tty: omap-serial: use threaded interrupt handler

From: Frans Klaver <hidden>
Date: 2014-09-23 18:11:50
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On 23 September 2014 19:17:20 CEST, Peter Hurley [off-list ref] wrote:
On 09/23/2014 04:24 AM, Frans Klaver wrote:
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On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 02:13:03PM +0200, Frans Klaver wrote:
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On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 08:01:08AM -0400, Peter Hurley wrote:
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On 09/16/2014 04:50 AM, Frans Klaver wrote:
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On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 01:31:56PM -0400, Peter Hurley wrote:
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On 09/15/2014 11:39 AM, Peter Hurley wrote:
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On 09/15/2014 10:00 AM, Frans Klaver wrote:
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At 3.6Mbaud, with slightly over 2Mbit/s data coming in, we see
1600 uart
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rx buffer overflows within 30 seconds. Threading the interrupt
handling reduces
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this to about 170 overflows in 10 minutes.
Why is the threadirqs kernel boot option not sufficient?
Or conversely, shouldn't this be selectable?
I wasn't aware of the threadirqs boot option. I also wouldn't know
if
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this should be selectable. What would be a reason to favor the
non-threaded irq over the threaded irq?
Not everyone cares enough about serial to dedicate kthreads to it
:)
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Fair enough. In that light, we might not care enough about other
subsystems to dedicate kthreads to it :). Selectable seems
reasonable in
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that case.

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Also, do you see the same performance differential when you
implement this
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in the 8250 driver (that is, on top of Sebastian's omap->8250
conversion)?
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I haven't gotten Sebastian's driver to work properly yet on the
console.
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There was no reason for me yet to throw my omap changes on top of
Sebastian's queue.
Doing the threaded interrupt change on the 8250 driver doesn't seem
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trivial. Unless I'm mistaken, that version of this patch would mess
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all other 8250 based serial drivers, if it's done properly.
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I did try using threadirqs, but that didn't give my any significant
results. I mostly noticed a difference in the console.

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PS - To overflow the 64 byte RX FIFO at those data rates means
interrupt
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latency in excess of 250us?
At 3686400 baud it should take about 174 us to fill a 64 byte
buffer. I
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haven't done any measurements on the interrupt latency though. If
you
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consider that we're sending about 1kB of data, 240 times a second,
we're
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spending a lot of time reading data from the uart. I can imagine
the
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system has other work to do as well.
System work should not keep irqs from being serviced. Even 174us is
a long
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time not to service an interrupt. Maybe console writes are keeping
the isr
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from running?
That's quite possible. I'll have to redo the test setup I had for
this to
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give you a decent answer. I'll have to do that anyway as Sebastian's
8250 conversion improves.
I haven't had time yet to look into this any further. I'll accept
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this patch may fix a case most people aren't the least interested in.
I'll also happily accept that I probably need a better argumentation
than "this works better for us".Would it make sense to drop this
patch
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and resubmit the other three? As I mentioned in the previous run, I
think these are useful in any case.
I would've thought the first 2 patches had already been picked up
because
they fix div-by-zero faults.
I've had no confirmation of that happening so far. I also don't know if I should expect one. Who'd take these patches? Tony? 

I don't really have a problem with the patch (except for it should be
selectable, even if that's just a CONFIG_ setting). At the same time,
the performance results don't really make sense; so if there's actually
an underlying problem, I'd rather that get addressed (and the long
interrupt latency may be the underlying problem).
Your questions got me thinking a bit more. I concluded that it's hard to define why this difference in performance is so big. I only got to it by just trying and seeing what would happen. 

As far as the 8250 driver and threaded irqs go, I just was hoping for
another data point with a simple hard-coded test jig, not a full-blown
patch series for all of them. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
Ah yes. I'll see what I can do about it. It does make sense to get that data point somehow. 

Thanks, 
Frans 
Regards,
Peter Hurley

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